The Politically Incorrect Guide to Mcgill Residences

<p>Obviously, I will be stepping on some toes here, for those people I step on, put on a hard hat and stop being a pansy. Remember, this is only my opinion so if you don't agree, well, you can blow me.</p>

<p>Residences: I'll try to keep this short.</p>

<p>Before we start, popular destinations for the following residences include Bar des Pins, Peel Pub and Gerts. All of them except for BDP if you're in the mood for some seediness, suck. Peel Pub is cheap but let me just say this, there are several Peel Pubs in Toronto that changed their names to Filthy McNasty's, the name is VERY FITTING for the one in Montreal. VERY FITTING. I cannot stress that enough.</p>

<p>The Upper Residences: All named after prominent Montreal families with deeply established roots in the city (little tidbit about Montreal, a lot of old money live in the city). Economically, the biggest ripoff going. Bad food, tiny rooms and disgusting washrooms. However, the relative concentration of students will mean lots of friends right away. Most Upper Rez kids tend to stay within the McGill bubble first year and have absolutely no knowledge of the Metro system or Montreal beyond the bars and the bubble but man they are awesome to hang out with.</p>

<p>MORE Houses: Tight knit community. That's pretty much all I know. Most of the MORE Houses are located on Pins Avenue.</p>

<p>New Rez: Also known as Poo Rez and (if you're easily offended, I suggest you ignore this) Jew Rez because of the amount of rich JAPS (Jewish American Princesses) that supposedly live here. Now I'm not taking a stance on that name, it's just something I've heard. Unlike the Upper Residences, the price of New Rez is actually justified. It's the most expensive residence but you get gourmet food COOKED for you and only your meal plan cards can work at New Rez. New Rez is the rez with the most anemities, you got your SAQ (liquor store), mall, several fast food joints all down the street from you, and you don't have to go up the dreaded hill (personally, I think people who whine about the hill are pansies). New Rez is hedonism for the 21st century university student. Awesome. Cons? The sheer amount of snot nosed kids who think they're entitled to the world you'll be living with, that's not to say everyone will be a Paris Hilton wannabe, but woah, they're are lots of them here. Last year, the motto on New Rez branded clothing was, "Let Them Eat Cake", 'nuff said.</p>

<p>RVC: The all girl Rez, known sometimes as Lez Rez. Okay, right across the street from campus, full of girls, no hill to climb, not that expensive. So what's the problem? No boys allowed unless you go in with a girl. Tight knit community but the parties suck. For obvious reasons, usually the cleanest rez. I've heard that a lot of close friendships have come out of this residence though. Before I move on, let me state this right now, most Rez parties are a joke, the only reason I'd ever go to one would be for cheap booze. Residence units are too small to hold decent house parties and the rooms are tiny and disgusting. McGill isn't located in some small conservative university town where the legal age is 35 and requires a license. Believe me, the best parties at McGill are the ones you have outside of McGill.</p>

<p>Greenbriar: Apartment style living, cheapest residence by far and no mandatory meal plans. Get your own kitchen, right next door to the university, rooms aren't fishbowls. Thumbs up. Cons? Your unit will vary, some units may have suffered from having the worst occupant ever, others had the luxury of having a neat freak living in them the previous year. Also, those who don't choose to get a meal plan, keep in mind that the grocery stores around the downtown core are overpriced. If you or your family are on a budget, this probably offers the best bang for the buck, only thing I don't like about Greenbriar is the lack of decently priced grocery stores in the area. Coming from a guy who pays his own way through school, if I had to do it again, I'd pick Greenbriar.</p>

<p>Solin Hall: Ok folks, those of you who have lived in suburbs your entire life now get to enjoy living in your first actual urban community (the McGill bubble is not a real urban community, sorry folks). Welcome to St. Henri. Right off the bat, you'll want to leave at least half an hour before your classes start to get to school because you'll be living a fair bit aways from campus. Secondly, get used to being a commuter and taking the Metro everyday (unless you have a car). Solin Hall is too far away from campus to offer a meal plan, it wouldn't be practical, fortunately for you folks you got the Atwater Market right there for (expensive) locally grown organic food, the Super C and the IGA grocery stores. Lachine Canal is nice for jogging. Nicest apartments by far, although the bedrooms vary in size from tiny to massive. Qaulity varies obviously. Since you have no meal plan, you'll be cooking for yourself (and maybe your roomates) all year or if you hate having money, ordering food. Second cheapest residence, also the one furthest away from campus. So what is the appeal? Everything I just mentioned. Solin offers the closest thing to a realistic portrayl of living in a city out of all the residences and that may turn you off if you're looking for a real life version of Animal House or may be attractive to you if you think reality appeals to you. Solin happens to neighbour some nice apartments and government subsidizeds projects. Some of Montreal's seedier and poorer neighbourhoods are located in the St. Henri area. However, unless you're stupid, you should be in no more danger than if you lived at say, New Rez. By the way, for anyone who is into investing money in property, St. Henri has a burgeoning condo market with some nice prices so if you're thinking of getting a place for second year, awesome condos in the area.</p>

<p>Living Off Campus - Montreal has a lot of awesome neighbourhoods/boroughs to live in. I won't list them all because I just went over enough of the residences for you but rest assured you'll have plenty of time to explore, especially you Solinites since you'll be armed with a monthly Metropass so you will be using it often.</p>

<p>Frosh Week - McGill Frosh week is legendary and AWESOME. However, every bar in Montreal will know that McGill is having a Frosh Week so they will be carding, after that you can feel safe again. The legal age in Montreal is 18 (another reasons why a night out on the town is vastly superior to rez parties) anyways, you guys should be fine. Bring condoms, that includes you too ladies. </p>

<p>Tip to the First Years: This is something I see once or twice every year (usually from the Americans), YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRINK YOURSELF INTO THE HOSPITAL PRIOR TO 11:30AM. Frosh Week is a week, there are 24 hours in a day and drinking is much better as a nightime activity. The last thing you want when you're drunk is the sunlight hitting you in the face like a sledgehammer, leave the excessive daytime drinking for the lame high school parties you grew out of. Most pathetic thing I ever saw was my first year at McGill and seeing some moron get alcohol poisoning at 10:30 AM during Frosh Week. Might seem cool now (if you're stupid) but he was in the hospital while the rest of our group were drinking shots of girl's bellies in the bar later that night. Two thumbs up to alcohol but remember now that it's legal, it's okay to pace yourself. I sometimes buy beer and put it in the fridge for a later date myself.</p>

<p>I like this guide.</p>

<p>very good guide....</p>

<p>but i wouldnt advise anyone to live offcampus....u cant make many close friends otherwise unless u some super social person...</p>

<p>IMO first year should be spent around the mcgill bubble...get used to it there is actaully a lot of explore around mcgill itself..its downtown....st.laurent street to cresent street is where most freshmen will be on weekends</p>

<p>make a lot of close friends too (that should be ur priority)....after your freshmen year you will have 3 long years to explore montreal..and wateva u wanna do</p>

<p>rez parties were pretty good in upper rez for pre drinking (we went out after about 11 pm)...we used the common rooms, they are huge...we had a kegger, a cocktail party, we even turned out floor into a dance floor...</p>

<p>thanks for this guide, it's great!</p>

<p>You say that it's not very easy to meet people when you're living off campus... </p>

<p>Do you happen to know how easy it is for transfer students to get on-campus housing? We are supposed to find out by July 31st and we supposedly get any spaces that are left... but I've heard that the Rez's are usually full and transfers rarely get spaces</p>

<p>I'm just worried about not being 18 when the year starts...it would suck to not be able to partake in the bar hopping and such.</p>

<p>The legal age in Quebec is usually just a suggestion, no one takes it very seriously. The exception to the rule is Frosh Week. Since Montreal has a ridiculous number of universities that have Frosh within a week or two of each other, all the bars know and the bar owners will no the cops will be out watching them extra carefully so rather then lose their license they'll be carding. I'd say that by October or November you'll be able to get into bars at the age of 14-15 (not an exaggeration) again. Those of you who will still be 17 come Frosh Week, get a fake ID or an ID from someone who kinda sorta resembles you. They don't exactly card with extreme justice here.</p>

<p>I found it ridiculously easy to meet new whether you live on or off campus and I'm not super social by any means. Just join some clubs, talk to people in your classes and what not, a lot of your classes will have tutorials or conferences which have about 20-30 people so you can do it here. First year, I only joined one club and talked to only a few in my classes but I still made a lot of friends and I lived off campus.</p>

<p>Transfer students, I would suggest you look for off campus housing just in case. If you're super ultra shy and are worried about withering away like a hermit in your apartment, pick a neighbourhood with a lot of students living in it such as the McGill and Concordia ghettos (not real ghettos, they can look like ghettos though, students aren't exactly known for being good residents) or the Plateau. If you're confident in your French or just wanna immerse yourself in Francophone culture to improve your French like myself, you can live around the Universite de Montreal or UQAM, both of which are fairly close to McGill but are 100% French schools. Awesome neighbourhoods. Rent in Montreal is dirt cheap. The prices McGil charges for the crap rooms in Upper Rez are borderline extortion.</p>

<p>DKM said that first year should be spent mostly around the McGill bubble. I whole heartedly agree with him if you wanna be a glorified tourist in Montreal. I didn't, so I spent first year all over the place. I loved Montreal so much I decided to move their permanently, and despite my incompotence with the French language managed to get a job which I will start in September. I don't harbour any ill will towards people who wanna stay here as tourists for 3-4 years, it's just not my style, whatever floats your boat folks.</p>

<p>Frosh Week in a Nutshell:</p>

<p>Frosh Week is the most awesome time ever. The amount of alcohol, drugs and sex available makes your best party ever look like a Sunday Church Picnic with senior citizens. Bring condoms, not every you meet during Frosh is, to put it lightly, clean. If you're not into random one night stands with seedy guys and dirty skanks, bring some condoms for the friends you meet during Frosh who will invariable hook up with someone else. I personally, did not bring any condoms with me to Frosh, but thank God somene else did. By the way, don't get pressured into sex and/or excessive drinking, if you feel uncomfortable tell the person who is doing it (which unfortunately is usually some stereotypical frat boy wannabe third or fourth year male frosh leader) to go F___ himself and join a different Frosh Group. Contrary to popular belief, you do not have to be in said faculty to partake in their Frosh.</p>

<p>Arts Frosh: Worst Frosh. They get an A for effort however because of the sheer number of Arts students they have to coordinate. You have to pay for your own beer after paying for the Frosh fee which is $50-70 (every Frosh has this a fee). My advice, steal beer from Science, Management or Engineering. Those guys are suckers. Still better then anything you've experienced up to this point in your life though (unless you were at Woodstock '99 or something).</p>

<p>Management Frosh: Consistently the best Frosh. Free beer, copius amounts of beer and free beer. Fairly small so you won't feel like just a number and Management kids in general party more then any other faculty before and after Frosh. After you come back from Winter break, the management kids put on Carnival which is basically Frosh II. Awesome. So why do Management kids get the best Frosh? Like I said, small so they can afford the free beer and I've been told that the guy who oversees all Frosh is a Management student so there's some favouritism going on. Also, since Management kids don't have Friday classes, your weekend starts on Thursday nights, party hard folks. As for the Faculty itself, well, I'm kinda ambivalent towards it. Everyone should try and steal beer from these guys because they are also the most stuck up Frosh.</p>

<p>Science Frosh: This is the Frosh I stole beer from (I ain't paying for beer during Frosh, that's like paying for healthcare with a credit card). Good Frosh group. Science kids have the exact same classes the first year so the people you meet in Science Frosh you will remember, that's why if you plan on getting your freak on, get it on with someone from the other Froshes so you can avoid them later on. </p>

<p>Engineering Frosh: Sausage fest. Good for the girls and the gay guys. Not so good if you want some poon. Free beer.</p>

<p>Arts and Science Frosh: You guys get a choice between Arts or Science. Choose science. Better yet, choose Management. Be aware that Management Frosh has a limit on tickets they sell to people not in their faculty.</p>

<p>Music Frosh: Small and unnoticable. I don't know many people in the Music Faculty, I'm not a very artsy person.</p>

<p>Finally there's SSMU and Radical Frosh which is your SECOND (yes, SECOND) Frosh week. SSMU is basically another drug/alcohol induced dirty skanky sex fest. Radical is actually pretty interesting, especially for those who are politically aware. Radical Frosh explores Montreal on a deeper level beyond the seedy bars and rank clubs and makes a party out of it. You'll see some nice concerts and drink at a cool house parties. Both Froshes end with white water rafting or some event to that effect.</p>

<p>Here are somethings you shouldn't do during Frosh:
Drink light beer.
Act all intellectual, just drink and go crazy. Your parents aren't here anymore and you won't have to worry about money yet so get f____ed up. Unless you go to Radical Frosh, you can be a bit more normal there.
Forget that you can say "No". Seriously, you can either party like a maniac for a couple days and end up in the hospital (or worst, wake up next to some weirdo with no teeth) or you can pace yourself and party for an entire week.
Pressure anyone into doing anything they don't want to. This includes judging people. I started drinking at the age of 13 (don't do it kids!) so the act of drinking or not drinking itself doesn't stir up any particular emotions for me anymore, but I hate people who treat it like a religious experience and I also hate people who look down upon others who partake in it. High school is over folk.</p>

<p>is the faculty of management small because they admit less people or because less people choose to go?</p>

<p>Do they check age at the different faculty events? I heard they give some bracelet or something...</p>

<p>I Faculty of Management isn't THAT small, but it's probably the size of a large high school. </p>

<p>Bracelets denote the Frosh you are a part of, not an age thing.</p>

<p>^^
I believe that's true, but I think what DerDrache meant was that, at the different Frosh events, will they dispense alcohol to you even though you aren't 18 yet?</p>

<p>The Frosh events, yes. The bars, no.</p>

<p>but is the faculty of management a more competitive application pool (ie smaller acceptance rate) than say, the faculty of arts?</p>

<p>yes definately....its like tat everywhere in canada...its much harder to get into business programs than other programs...there is much more demand and there are very few spots </p>

<p>as for bracelets...they give u 2 bracelets if ur 17...so lie about ur age at all costs...</p>

<p>tats what i did....and it paid off big time...</p>

<p>Is frosh week open to transfer students?</p>

<p>what are the dates for the frosh week? do they match up with the orientation week, the week before classes start?</p>

<p>i will still be 17 during frosh, but if i lie and say i'll be 18 on the frosh registration form, will they check my age or do anything if i get caught?</p>

<p>yeah, i turn 18 the day classes start, so basically a day or two after frosh ends. i'm not too concerned about the drinking aspect - i would just be annoyed if i couldn't get into certain places, which is more than likely.</p>

<p>There's really no point in lying on your Frosh form because all McGill students under 18 get a special labelled McGill ID and being underage doesn't prevent you from drinking, it only prevents you from getting into the Anglo bars (which is pretty much the only ones you'll be visiting).</p>