<p>I've been considering the idea of apply to schools in the UK, especailly the "scottish ivies": edinburgh, aberdeen, glasgow and st. andrews. unfortunatly, these school's websites are really useless. I can't find anything about the schools other than application forms, etc. I really want to know things like tuition costs and what the areas around the schools are like. Does anyone have this info or know where I can get it?</p>
<p>I'm interested too. I've been trying to find reivews and other info. I've just been googling for the past hour, nothing that great yet...</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.**************.co.uk%5B/url%5D">www.**************.co.uk</a> and UCAS</a> Home Page for info and application forms, respectively.</p>
<p>I gleamed those sites and other info from CC earlier in this semester for a friend. You may also want to try searching on CC for info and suggestions. Remember that the Scottish schools would be under the UK system.</p>
<p>^^Sorry^^ Let's try this again. The Student Room (without the spaces) is the <strong><em>.co.uk site and it's a similar forum as CC for UK students and the UCAS (</em></strong>.com) is the UK equivalent to the common apps or college board for int'l students (but with a 6 application limit).</p>
<p>It's a start. Good luck.</p>
<p>I always thought the Scottish Ivies were Macalester and Carnegie Mellon :)</p>
<p>Have you been on the college web sites? Here's a link to St. Andrews -- University</a> of St Andrews - Scotland's first university</p>
<p>It reads pretty much like the average American college site.</p>
<p>Here's the other links:</p>
<p>The</a> University of Edinburgh University</a> of Glasgow :: Glasgow, Scotland, UK University</a> of Aberdeen</p>
<p>well quick fact. tuition and room/board for university of Edinburgh is 15,000 pounds= almost 30,000 dollars.</p>
<p>I have studied in the UK. What would you want to ask about?</p>
<p>scotland has ivies! psshhh...c'mon guys....Why do you have t ocall the ivys</p>
<p>hardwired frame of reference, that's why! (even though these schools predate the ivies..)</p>
<p>Anyway you should consider just how royally expensive these schools would be for a US citizen...have you checked the cable lately? ouch.</p>
<p>I thought the tuition was supposed to be less than the average private college in the U.S... Am I just flat out wrong? I've tried to find tuition info on University of Edinburgh's site, but I can't seem to find it. The site is pretty extensive...Oh, wait...garn1 says about $30,000. Considering that many private colleges are 40,000+, that's not horrible. Or perhaps, I just have no concept of the value of money.. I don't know. Someone else want to add other comments?</p>
<p>This is from my own research - not sure how accurate this is, but just to give you an idea. I'm looking at applying to a few Scottish schools (particularly St. Andrews) as well as the University of Dublin.</p>
<p>A big consideration I think with UK schools is that even though they may be cheaper than their U.S. equivalents, I don't believe you're allowed to work there (even part time).</p>
<p>University of Edinburgh
I <em>THINK</em> Americans are considered "Full time overseas students"</p>
<p>School of Economics (as well as most other majors) - 9,900 pounds - $19,631
<a href="http://www.registry.ed.ac.uk/Fees/UGfees07-08.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.registry.ed.ac.uk/Fees/UGfees07-08.pdf</a></p>
<p>There are various accommodation options, but it looks as if it will cost at least in the 4,450 pound range - $8,879. That's for the cheapest "catered" option. It includes 14 meals per week. </p>
<p>If you elect for self-catered (be warned - food off campus will probably be OUTRAGEOUS!), it can be as cheap as 1,883 pounds or $3,734.</p>
<p>Accommodation</a> Prices 2007-08</p>
<p>You're guaranteed housing for the first year, not sure about the other years</p>
<p>Again, I'm not positive - since I read the same material you did!</p>
<p>St. Andrews</p>
<p>As a full time student, approximately 10,950 pounds - $21,714
<a href="http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/media/overseas_fees_2007_2008.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/media/overseas_fees_2007_2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>For "catered" accommodation, it starts at 3,800 pounds - $7,535
For "self-catered", it starts at 1,925 pounds - $3,817</p>
<p>Undergraduate</a> residence fees | University of St Andrews</p>
<p>University of Aberdeen</p>
<p>So, what appeals to you all about these Scottish/UK universities? The pros/benefits?</p>
<p>So, what appeals to you all about these Scottish/UK universities? The pros/benefits?</p>
<p>hey, im an international student currently studying at st. andrews. im not on scholarship and am paying abt 30 grand (dollars) in total. mind you im in self catered accomodation. im in dra which is 4 grand (uk pounds) and which is the most expensive accomodation. but its damn good. queen size bed.large spacious room and ensuite bathroom which tiny but its great. in dra u share an apartment with 4 other guys (in first year its single sex) and ive been fortunate to have flatmates i get along with really really well. before i continue i shld point out i chose st. andrews over a smal LAC (beloit) which gave me a full ride. also to point out..no idea where u got the impression u cant work part time. u can work part time 20 hours a week during academic season and upto 40 a week during ur vacations. min. wage is abt 5.30 pounds an hour. but most jobs (jobs in the uni) will give u more.
there is no dedicated campus. but its one of the most beautiful towns here. its located on the eastern coast of scotland so uve got beautiful views of the sea (i have one too from my window and im far away from the town centre) lovely beaches (3 different ones, west sands,castle sands, and east sands). its also got the best weather in all of scotland, doesnt snow as much asin the U.S and gets more sunny days. but does get very cold due to chilly winds. but a very nice place to study.beautiful. lots of diversity. my flatmates include one from beligum, ireland,scotland anda londoner with a posh accent (and believe me diversity is not just abt the color of ur skin). ive got a german friend and one of my friends has a flatmate from africa and mauritius. i know a turkish american muslim named tom/humza.
the town and uni are splendidly intertwined. lots of different types of shops in the town center including starbucks. ameicans wont feel so out of place cuz quite a few come here. the town is steeped rich in tradition and with it comes all the quirky traditions (raisin weekend, may dip to name a few). lots of pubs. and lots of drinking if thats ur thing. not very good with the night clubs but if u want a taste of that dundee is less than half an hour away by bus and it costs only 2.35 pounds. which is cheap. st. andrews itself is a bit expensive cuz of the scenic location and all. not to mention the golf course (it is the home of golf for all u golfers out there, and they have a scholarship for good golfers).but its worth it. its quite small. only 18 thousand ppl, 2 thirds of which are either students or faculty. and some of the uni buildings are to die for. all that contrived gothic 20th century architecture at princeton doesnt match up to the real thing. look up pics for the eco and philo depts as well as the quad, st salvators and the quad for the psychology depts.
academically, its pretty damn good. look at the rankings. they mean **** but reason for their big jump is cuz of high student satisfaction. reputationwise it probably doesnt come close to oxbridge even though its the third oldest uni in the english speaking world. and it lags behind lse and imperial in social sciences and hardcore sciences respectively. but its getting up there.some ppl wld argue edinburgh is better but st andrews has been voted best uni in scotland in a row these past few years. probaby where it always shld have been. strong subjects are IR which is world renowned (houses the center for study on political terrorism and violence), english, math, philo..and this is the stuff i only know. a lot of other subjects are pretty strong as well including chemistry,psychology, bio...(it goes on). apparently their 'philosophy of mathematics' program is second only to harvard. this i heard from a guy here so dont know how much faith u wld put into that. but their math dept is incredibly incredibly strong.
popular majors for ppl from the US are often IR with arabic and middle eastern studies. thats another good thing. the first two years u have to take 3 modules (or courses), so 3 subects. so its a blend of the specialization and indepth study offered by english unis and diversity offered by american unis. infact the american college system is based on the scottish one. i myself am taking math philo and economics in my first semester and amd gonna drop the math for another philo one next sem. workload is nothing compared to what american colleges give (i know ppl who are now at williams, cornell and upenn. and princeton). i have 3 lectures a week per subject (5 for math) one tutorial per subject a week (microlab for math and 2-3 hour labs for physical sciences) so its not a lot of work. its pretty easy. ive had 2 weeks off for xmas and have my exams next week. first years a breeze.wednesdays are usually off so its a nice break.
teaching quality...pretty impressed so far. my math philo lecturers are all oxbridge graduates ( both undergrad and phds). they know their stuff and more importantly pass it on effectively. (for the most part. one of my philo lecturers is an 80 year old woman who can get you yawning quite a bit) but on the whole not bad. one of my eco profs. john beath, very nice. will take time after lectures to explain concepts and even respond to emails sent accidentally to him within hours! did his undergrad from st. andrews and went onto lse and wharton at upenn and is currently collaborating research work with an eco prof. at princeton. my other eco lecturer is italian and also very helpful. almost always stands outside the lecture hall after the lecture to chat with students abt lectures and how to improve em; tests and such and economic theory - usually over a cigarette
lots of seminars happening (esp philo related). usually something every week. and a party to go along with that.
thats all i can think of now. if u have any other specific q's lemme know</p>
<p>emosen, do they award any financial aid whatsoever to American students? Also, are there any special restrictions for working part-time? Do you have to apply for a work visa, etc.?</p>
<p>yeah there are acouple of scholarships for 'north american students'. i think theyre a couple worth 25 thousand. not sure if they are renewable though. look up the fin. aid pages and ull find a whole list of scholarships. there are little merit based on specific to subject ones and one for golfers as well.
there might be some jobs u wont be able to do. but u can do pretty much all of the common ones. waiting, kitchen assistant, cleaner, bouncer, barman, etc. the student visa issued to me included a 'license' if u will, to work part time during ur stay in the UK. im pretty sure the visa ud be issued wld be similar.theres moe info in the handbooks they send once u apply/ get an offer.</p>
<p>When are application deadlines? It says that you can apply to the University of Edinburgh, for example, until June as an international student...</p>