<p>Barrons,</p>
<p>What school would you take out in favor of Wisconsin?</p>
<p>what about LSU? i dont know much about them outside football and basketball kinda, but they havent been great at basketball. i feel like there are other schools that deserve to be on this list over them</p>
<p>Could not agree more with barrons. It says, “Below are the top ten campuses where time stops for Saturday’s (or Monday’s or Tuesday’s) game.” That means that, wins and losses aside, it is measuring which schools’ students and greater communities support their teams the most. When you take a look at Wisconsin’s attendance numbers, they are truly unparalleled. 80,000+ packed into Camp Randall 7 Saturdays a year. 17,000+ for basketball and 15,000+ for hockey at the Kohl Center. None of the schools on this list can say they put up numbers like that for 3 different sports. Wisconsin is literally called The Badger State. The only automatic qualifiers on this list are Ohio State, Texas, and Florida. LSU, Michigan, Notre Dame - Solid, they’d be on my list. </p>
<p>But I’ll tell you, I’m from California and can say that UCLA definitely does not deserve to be on this list. USC and Stanford could replace UCLA in a heartbeat. Aside from basketball, I don’t see UCLA having much of a case. 1/2 filled Rose Bowl on Saturdays (so far from campus that many students just don’t care enough to make the trip) doesn’t cut it in my book.</p>
<p>Out-Choose from Alabama, UCLA, Georgia, LSU, ND, and UNC for overall big sport performance over last 10 years.</p>
<p>Duke has the best basketball program in the modern era, a national championship lacrosse program, perennial top 10 golf/tennis/soccer teams, etc. etc. How is it not on this list?</p>
<p>How many other schools won 2 major national championships (basketball and lacrosse) like Duke did this year? Michigan and Notre Dame haven’t done jack in any major sport in the last couple of years. Their inclusion on this list is laughable.</p>
<p>I love that they interupt the evening news to announce the lacrosse national champs. Plus, the lacrosse betting pool in my office is HUGE. such an enormous sport.</p>
<p>USC should not be there. They do not have that many varsity sports and haven’t been strong in sports like baseball or basketball for years. I would push for Stanford though. Much better all around program for both men and women.</p>
<p>“How many other schools won 2 major national championships (basketball and lacrosse) like Duke did this year? Michigan and Notre Dame haven’t done jack in any major sport in the last couple of years. Their inclusion on this list is laughable.”</p>
<p>florida won a basketball and football national championship in one year, thats a much much bigger deal, since not many people care about lacrosse. i bet there are other schools that have won 2 national championships in a major and minor sport in recent years.
michigan has the most wins of any football program, and the most hockey national championships. this list is not just about success too, and people are crazy about football at both schools. you cant take teams off just cuz they have had a couple down years. michigan is ranked top 25 again anyways, and notre dame has actually been decent to good at basketball some years recently, and they have the 2nd most wins of any football program. hopefully they will have some good years in football soon. these two schools have to rich of a history to take them off. the problem with duke is no one cares about their football team, who hasnt finished a season ranked in the top 25 for 50 years</p>
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You are being way too generous. Trivia question: when was the last time the Blue Devils had a winning season?</p>
<p>2009: 5-7
2008: 4-8
2007: 1-11
2006: 0-12
2005: 1-10
2004: 2-9
2003: 4-8
2002: 2-10
2001: 0-11
2000: 0-11
1999: 3-8
1998: 4-7
1997: 2-9
1996: 0-11
1995: 3-8
1994: 8-4</p>
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<p>UNC won two NCAA basketball national championships over the last decade. How many did UW win? National championships are huge-particularly in the “big two”-football and basketball. Not to mention our football team has been bowling, our baseball team has consistently made the trip to Omaha, and our soccer teams have been ridiculous as well.</p>
<p>As far as Duke goes, I’d put them in my top 15, but they need to seriously step it up on the gridiron before they’d make my top 10.</p>
<p>I’m only concerned about the Big 2 sports - football and basketball.</p>
<p>Let’s say for the last 5-10 years.</p>
<p>I’d put OSU, Wisconsin, Florida, WVU, Texas - feel free to add to the list, because I’m sure I’m forgetting lots. </p>
<p>I’m setting my criteria as conference championships, Bowl Games, BCS Bowl Games, NCAA tournament appearances, and NCAA tournament success (Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final 4).</p>
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<h2>Only UF and UT-Austin truly excel at basketball AND football. Every other college in the country is either a one-trick pony when it comes to the two MAJOR revenue-producing sports or simply mediocre at both like Wisconsin. ~ Lesdiables</h2>
<p>You gotta put Ohio State in that category.</p>
<p>I’d also put WVU in the “class”, two BCS Bowl victories, Final 4, Elite 8.</p>
<p>I’d put Wisconsin in as well.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say Wisconsin “excels” at basketball. They are good, sure, but with only one final four since 1941 I don’t think I’d put then in the same category as UF and UT-Austin.</p>
<p>Based on the list, it seems the criteria is that a school needs to be an elite school in 1 of the 2 major revenue sports and pretty good at the other.</p>
<p>That knocks Duke off the list; as it does others such as Penn St. and Neb. - which have won numerous national/conf. championships in non-revenue sports, but have done pretty much nothing in BB.</p>
<p>For dual sports, dOSU definitely belongs up there w/ UF and UT.</p>
<p>UW is pretty good in both sports, but a step below elite level for both.</p>
<p>I don’t think Kansas or Nebraska have much of an argument even over the likes of UConn and Mich St., not to mention UCLA or Florida. Wisconsin has perennially good teams, but they really aren’t elite in anything except hockey, in which I think BU, BC, and Minnesota and possibly Maine still have more clout, if not in the form of actual championships.</p>
<p>People need to read the criteria. In the link, it says it’s schools where the campus basically stops for games, and virtually everyone cares. That list fits that description perfectly (though maybe a Duke should be added, though for football, no one cares, maybe Penn State, too). Maybe Stanford is a better overall athletic program than Notre Dame, taking into account every sport, but their students don’t even come close to caring about the team as much as ND’s students. That’s what this list means.</p>
<p>I also like the posts talking about “major” sports like lacrosse, hockey, and baseball. None of those are major college sports (BTW, I play lacrosse and am a huge NHL fan, FWIW). There are two major college sports-football and basketball (and there’s even a big gap between them, with football way ahead of bball). So congrats to Wisconsin for excelling at college hockey, no one cares.</p>
<p>After a brief strong run Florida was not even in the NCAA in 2008-2009. Pretty hard for any major wioth a decent team not to make the field today. This year they were 1 and done. Hardly elite by your own definition. Texas has 1 F 4 since 1950–same as UW. Head to head UW beat them once and UT beat them once in the last decade.</p>
<p>As for hockey–35,000 cared</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/2010-04-08-frozen-four-semifinals_N.htm[/url]”>http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/2010-04-08-frozen-four-semifinals_N.htm</a></p>
<p>This is a fair view I think if we are talking revenue and sports across the spectrum. </p>
<p>For me however, the only teams that matter are Wake Forest, Duke, UNC, and N.C. State.</p>
<p>Very few schools have “elite” programs in both sports, the list would be small.</p>
<p>I think the list would be Florida, Texas, OSU, WVU. As a WVU guy I’m biased, but we have two BCS Bowl wins, a strong bowl record, an Elite 8, and a Final 4, all within the last 5 years.</p>
<p>I will except that they may be more of a “short term” member of this list, or a “novice” member, but as a fan/alumni/player - I assert my bias, lol.</p>
<p>“Wisconsin has perennially good teams, but they really aren’t elite in anything except hockey, in which I think BU, BC, and Minnesota and possibly Maine still have more clout, if not in the form of actual championships.”</p>
<p>Michigan has more than any of them in hockey…</p>