<p>you can put all the “facts and figures” down- but if you aren’t knowledgeable about specific schools and programs, you are “unintentionally” spreading falsehoods and manipulating reality. As it’s been said many times- "garbage in–garbage out!!</p>
<p>so the lowest performing 4 year graduation rate at a SUNY is Alfred State at 13.3% as it was listed by one of the posters.
Problem with that “fact” is that Alfred State is a SUNY Technical college, and most of the terminal degrees at Alfred are 2 year Associate Degrees- including an Associate in Occupational Studies in Interior Design, Culinary Arts and Motorsports Technology.</p>
<p>Ommission of fact was used similarly for Oberlin, in which someone explained that many students routinely obtain dual degrees and are in 5 year programs and schools like Northeastern are known for its Co OP Program. So basically alot of the “facts” that are being noted, are totally misleading and used out of context.</p>
<p>I think this thread just gives a voice to the detractors of public education.<br>
With any analytical ability and understanding the history and the importance of public education on our society, one would realize that Public Education has a much different mission than a private U- as it is much more inclusive and allows many non-traditional and lower income students to pursue college studies. And in many instances, the goal may not be to get a degree- but to obtain knowledge in a particular area to better their lives.</p>