The U.S. is Selling Out Taiwan

<p>Razorsharp: Well, I can't exactly hook up with chicks in the car I usually drive (2005 Toyota Camry, 4 cylinder). I'd probably have to steal my mom's Volvo S80 T6, or if I was really desperate, I'd steal my buddy's Mustang GT (V8 4.6 L engine woohoo!).</p>

<p>tomadog2: well, you did wade pretty deep into this debate (keep in mind that a debate is civilized and sophosticated, you are borderline into arguing). If you want to prove my points absurd, there is no need to directly call them absurd. I have never directly attacked anyone's arguments and called them "nonsense," I have only offered contrary evidence.</p>

<p>First, it is true that China is undergoing an "industrial revolution" of its own (it's now in the later phases) as seen by its increases in factory production and manufacturing. Also, it has increased production of more modern technologies such as cars and computers.</p>

<p>During the Western Industrial Revolution in the 1800s and early 1900s, countries that industrialized later purchased, and in some cases, stole more modern goods from those that have already industrialized (Great Britain was the first to industrialize, but their info leaked to other countries). This also goes back to razorsharp's argument claiming that Chinese companies have been stealing, it is generally the case in a global capitalist economy (as has happened in the past). Don't confuse China's not-quite-into-the-capitalist economy system yet with global economy. The global economy is capitalist. Razorsharp: start a minor celebration, I yield that some Chinese companies are guilty of intellectual theft.</p>

<p>You also want me to tell you why China is expanding its military. It's because they feel threatened by America. It's China's point of view, Taiwan is theirs (as China has controlled that island for a long time), and since the communist party defeated the nationalist party for control of China, they believe Taiwan is theirs, even if the Nationalists have fled there. China feels threatened because America has made it clear that they will (in China's point of view) stand in their way should they try to reclaim what is theirs (again, in China's point of view).</p>

<p>Think about this scenario: For the sake of argument let's pretend that American third parties like the American Marijuana Party, Nazi party, Communist Party, etc. decides to wage a civil war on the majority parties. We fight, and the Democratic/Republican party beats the crap out of them. The third parties then flee to Hawaii and claim independence. How would America feel about losing an island just like that?</p>

<p>Razorsharp: I did not and do not deny that China and America aren't exactly the best of friends (I have dreams occasionally where Hu Jintao and our man Dubya shake hands, and both people have thought bubbles over their head that say the same thing: "You B**tard...")</p>

<p>Another thing to everyone: keep in mind that we are arguing from perspective. I've been brought up in a Chinese family, and my parents have always told me that Taiwan was part of China. [Almost] every Taiwanese kid will think the direct opposite of me, and a lot of kids reared in American families will support their country's stance on Taiwan. </p>

<p>Any neutral parties out there willing to come into this?</p>