The US news rankings are out- does anyone care?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges. Here we go again. Let the arguments commence…

Not something I have looked at in many years or was ever hugely reliant on but took a peek and see that my nephew is starting his freshman year at the #1 National University!

Princeton has held that spot for several years!! Congrats!

You are some hours early :wink: But thank you for the heads up.
https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/articles/2019-08-19/2020-best-colleges-rankings-coming-sept-9

My kids’ colleges both continue to rise in their rankings, and we aren’t surprised!

But really, most of the list is about the same as it’s been for years.

ND up to #15. UMich up to #25 ahead of UVa. And Cal comes back into the rankings.

What # is Cal?

22 like last year before being delisted several weeks ago

Due to change in Carnegie classifications, there was movement from regional universities to the national category.
54 Santa Clara U
64 Loyola Marymount
79 Gonzaga
84 Elon
104 Creighton

Cal was found to have significantly misrepresented its alumni giving in past years, which led I believe to the de-listing. https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/articles/2019-07-25/updates-to-5-schools-2019-best-colleges-rankings-data

Some of these enrollment numbers seem a bit off… for example, it lists U Alabama at ~33,000 when the university of 37,00-38,000 ?

I do love looking at the list for Best Undergraduate Teaching. Boy it seems more people should use that list when looking for schools. Isn’t that what’s most important?

@scholarmin 33K is the undergraduate enrollment, total enrollment is about 38K (and is reflected that way in the US News listing).

Disappointed my kid’s school has dropped before he even gets there, LOL!

US News 2020: National Universities:

  1. Princeton

  2. Harvard

  3. Columbia

  4. MIT

  5. Yale

  6. Stanford

  7. UChicago

  8. UPenn

  9. Northwestern University

  10. Duke University

  11. Johns Hopkins University

  12. CalTech

  13. Dartmouth College

  14. Brown

  15. Notre Dame

  16. Vanderbilt

  17. Cornell

  18. Rice

  19. WashUStL

  20. UCLA

  21. Emory

  22. UCal-Berkeley

  23. USC

  24. Georgetown

  25. Carnegie Mellon University

  26. Michigan

  27. Wake Forest University

  28. Univ. of Virginia

  29. Georgia Tech

  30. NYU

  31. Tufts

  32. UNC

  33. URochester

  34. UC-Santa Barbara

  35. UFlorida

  36. UC-Irvine

  37. Boston College

  38. UC-San Diego

  39. UC-Davis

  40. Boston University

  41. Brandeis

  42. College of Wm. & Mary

  43. Northeastern (Boston)

  44. Tulane

  45. Wisconsin

  46. Villanova

  47. Illinois

  48. Texas-Austin

  49. Lehigh

  50. Pepperdine

  51. RPI

  52. Univ. of Georgia

UC Schools well represented on the Top 50. Now that newest location UC Merced is at #104 Nationally (up 32 spots this year (maybe biggest gain in nation?), and up 29 spots last year)…ALL 9 UC’s are almost in the Top 100 Nationally!

@homerdog Undergraduate teaching sure is important, but grad rate is also very important

Nope. Hard pass.

No, I don’t care. However, judging from the number of threads on the topic today, many do. US News obviously succeeded in marketing this product. IMO, it has made the college application process worse, not better.

Here is how they changed their metrics/methodology this year. They have to keep changing it up to make themselves seem important or relevant https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/articles/2019-09-09/what-changed-in-how-the-2020-us-news-best-colleges-rankings-were-calculated