The Wait List

@muchanxieotea Oof…the 9th-grade waitlist is tough at DA. They’re always over-enrolled for freshman as far as I know; most have to have a roommate.

@derakiii33 - every 9th grader at DA has a roommate. After that, it’s a single. It’s a full house. A couple of spots on the WL did open this year and were snatched up immediately. I hear from a friend at Choate that this was the case there, also. A couple of spots opened up - also one we know of for 10th grade. Good luck to everyone on the WL and please keep us updated on the WL news this year.

Just gonna pop in after reading this ENTIRE THREAD over the course of three days :tired_face:

Wow, it’s kinda nostalgic to hear about Deerfield! I wish @muchanxieotea and anyone else on the Deerfield (and any, really, particularly Andover and Exeter) waitlist my well wishes! It’s a tough life, being on a waitlist with little hope as to any development in this ever-slogging process.

…or is there? I’d like to cheerfully remind everyone (having loaded up on the 4 years’ worth of waitlist wisdom this thread provides) that early July is a time period where potential acceptances off the waitlist may come through! The chances are low, I admit, but it’s (slightly) better than nil as some people may fail to follow through on their payments and forfeit their positions at their respective schools as a result. Watch out for activity through the summer, and keep hope lit in your hearts for next year’s admissions cycle as well!

I don’t really want to feed into speculation that much and I apologize if this comment violates any forum rules but I thought I would just share for all of the curious people and future users on the thread. (also, take this with a grain of salt. I feel as though I’m definitely overthinking this)
The other day, after submitting my Andover transcript, I received a reply email from my admissions officer stating that they received my transcript, that a decision would be coming, and they ended saying “good luck.” A few minutes later, I received an email stating that the admissions officer mistook me for another student, wanted to apologize for any “confusion” and that they did receive my transcript. Not sure why it seemed a little strange to me but my feeling was that the first email (stating an answer was coming and gave a good luck) was for another student entirely and the second was for me (as in I would not receive a definitive answer.)

Oh, that’s mean! Unfortunately, you’re likely correct. The way I’m reading it, the first email was intended towards a student who may have a positive outcome, while yours is likely still pending. Either way, likely not worth reading into, as what will be will be and you can only do so much to influence that outcome. Best of luck with Andover!

That’s how I read into it as well. Thanks for the reply :slight_smile:

Any hope for someone still on the 10th grade waitlist for a GLADCHEMMS school?

Depends on the school. It’s unrealistic to think that anyone knows the answer to all 10 schools in that artificially constructed acronym.

is that the new go to acro?? in my day it was hades , lol. ill take a stab and guess… groton, loomis , andover, deerfield, choate, hotchkiss, exeter, middlesex, milton, st pauls?

regarding the thread as a whole, def be prepared to go to a school that accepted you as waitlist is a crapshoot, but also dont lose hope… back in the day i got off the waitlist w a day student offer rather than the boarding position i applied for (was a hades school).

^ @hadesinquisitor if you don’t mind me asking, what grade were you entering & did you need fa?

9th grade , didnt apply for fa at the time.

Keep in mind this was years ago (over half a decade).

@hadesinquisitor don’t worry, HADES is still around on these boards. But from what I understand, GLADCHEMMS is more popular in the (more) general population.

And switch out Lawrenceville for Loomis and you are correct, actually…

Woah, that’s such a lucky chance (if quite hard on your parents), I’m happy for you (aware this was years ago, but the sentiment remains)!

lol dont be, read my thread “is this rare” for clarification (dont want to negatively affect this thread’s trajectory).

and ah i see, yeah lawrenceville is good. back in the day i just applied to andover/exeter and a safety.

i would go w hades + choate as my acro. of choice (i know super petty discussion but injecting a bit of humor i suppose). CHADES maybe.

I credit @ChoatieMom for this most hilarious acronym for the most CHASED schools. (there you go, hades + choate).

and yeah, i saw that. a very sad ending to a fortunate turn of events

If i’m honest, Loomis sorta deserves a spot in GLADCHEMMS too, it’s a fantastic school!

Never understood acronym fever. GLADCHEMMS/HADES aren’t necessarily the best schools, the highest ranking, or the ones with the toughest acceptance rates… They aren’t even the oldest schools. I suspect they are just the New England schools with the best marketing campaigns…

@CaliMex the acronyms aren’t useful nor are they particularly relevant, but there are always going to be people who buy into them. It is a boggling phenomena, but seems to be a fact of life.

And you might be right on that point, clearly there are many great schools that aren’t included in the acronyms and there has to be some selecting algorithm (at least my logic-based brain hopes so…).

I mostly just find it fun to play around with all the different possible acronyms.

It never felt good posting this right before M10, so I’m doing it now. :slight_smile:

What to do if you get waitlisted at your first choice school :

Here’s the drill :

If you receive a WL decision from your first choice school and an acceptance from another school- the steps are pretty simple:

  1. Accept a place on the WL via email with Delivery and Read Receipts.

  2. Schedule a Revisit Day and put the WL school OUT OF YOUR MIND for now. Go to Revisit Day and have a great time.

You’ll have one month for the WL to shakeout and to make a decision about the other school . If you want to go the distance with the WL school ( WITHOUT jeopardizing the other school ) you’ll have until A9. On A8 have your PARENT call the WL school and ask to speak to the DOA. Tell WL school that you have to act on an acceptance from another school before the deadline but you’d like to check WL status ( one last time ) before you do. If they tell you that they’re NOT going to the WL or they don’t expect much movement- thank them and have them remove your name from the WL.

It’s time to MOVE ON unless you choose to stay on the WL. If WL school miraculously does come through ( after A10 ) you’ll have to break your commitment with the other school and forfeit your deposit (which is NOT a mere bag of shells, by the way ) . Personally, I could never take this route because I’m waaay too frugal and I like closure .

I’m also big on keeping commitments- but that’s just me. So- now we’re one or two days away from the deadline…

  1. Now that you’ve given the WL time to play out ( and you can walkaway and never wonder because you’ve seen it through to the end… ) : Have your parent call the school ( you’ll be attending ) and tell them the deposit check is on it’s way via FedEx.

THE END. LOVE THE SCHOOL THAT LOVES YOU. PERIOD.

Now, If you’re handed all Waitlists without any acceptances … Here’s basically what you need to know :

Unfortunately, all you can do is remain calm. Out of the gate, I highly recommend that a WL student sends an email to all the school (s) just as I outlined in Step One above. Then the waiting truly begins because the AOs are completely focused on accepted students and Revisit Days until A10.

Yes, a waitlist parent can call an AO M10-A10 to echo what was said in their child’s WL email, or to get a WL status update, but just remember where the AO focus is ( as cruel as that sounds- I’m so sorry! ), and please remember that all interaction between you and the AO truly matters. IMHO- it’s better to remain cool, upbeat and patient at all times . Persistence ( aka stalking ) has worked out well according for some persistent parents… but it has also backfired miserably on numerous parents , too. Everyone operates differently and I’m not here to tell anyone what to do… just do what feels best and works well for your family.

If I had to pick two days for a WL parent to call ( after the M10 student email accepting a place on the WL ) , I would pick the day after their last scheduled revisit day ( see school website ) and A11- the day after contracts/ deposits are due… but that’s just me. I think it’s perfectly fine to call anytime before or on A9, too. Just NOT on A10… because it’s absolutely nuts in every BS AO office that day.

*** THIS IS IMPORTANT *** Before and after A10, you’ll hear about some WL movement here on CC. You’ll also see discouraging posts saying that your school has closed their WL. Please DISREGARD these posts unless you’ve received the SAME letter, email, or you were told the same information over the phone by the AO. You may not be receiving the same information for a good reason.

Most schools send out a blanket notification to all families when they officially close their WL… While some ( forgive me ) will leave you languishing in the desert forever.

FWIW- even though it’s rare, some Waitlist movement can happen before school begins in late August / early September. Movement can also occur in July, too … because that’s when the big money is due, but please don’t hang your hat on it. Life intervenes, plans change and spots at BSs do open up, but sadly it’s still very rare to be offered a spot .

The best WL advice that I’ve heard during M10-A10 ( and beyond ) is to keep an open heart, keep doing all the things you love , and keep moving forward . If you need to pause and vent- there are plenty of veterans ( parents and students ) that are here for you… many who have experienced exactly what you’re going though and could give much better WL advice than I can. So definitely reach out if you need to - even if it’s for a lousy cyber hug.

Also important: You may need a Plan B…

If you get completely shutout on M10 and BS enrollment for next fall is an absolute must either because you don’t have a viable school option at home, or your child just really, really, really, really wants to go ( which happens more often than most people think … ) … I recommend researching schools with forgiving admission rates and compiling a list with DOA phone numbers attached NOW. Also- maybe look at some single sex schools so you’ll be ready to act quickly ( if you need to ) just before or soon after A10.

Tip: You won’t be alone. I know many families who were unsuccessful with their Hail Mary placement efforts post A10 - mainly because they clung to a stupid Waitlist too long instead of contacting other schools- so don’t delay! Just do it and don’t look back. You never know- the Post A10 Hail Mary school might just be where you were meant to be all along. File it under: Sometimes things happen for a reason. :slight_smile:

Regardless of what your BS dreams are today - families ( who truly want or need BS placement for next year ) should have at least one " Plan B- What If… WL- Rejection- BS Zombie Apocalypse " conversation prior to M10 . Perhaps take some time to explore and discuss other possible- future BS options/ alternatives together… just in case the apocalypse comes . I know it’s very unpleasant , and you certainly don’t want to dampen spirits right now, raise your blood pressure, or throw a wet blanket on good vibes leading up to M10, but IMHO, you really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by having a “what if” talk now ( while everything is calm ), and a Plan B ready to go just in case.

Wow- that was really unpleasant and long, but I hope it helps. All the best and good luck M10!! And I’ll definitely have my fingers crossed that you won’t need any of this! :slight_smile:

Read post #2478 first.

Let’s go back to PLAN B for a very long-winded second !

Having a Plan B prior to M10 doesn’t only apply to full pay students/ families. If you require ANY amount of aid ( including a full ride ), it would behoove you to have a Plan B in place, too!! FWIW- Many BSs don’t always award all their FA just to award it on M10. Sometimes they’d rather reserve some of it for when the right candidate or candidates come along. Sometimes a post A10- Hail Mary applicant can be “The One” they’ve been looking for all along and boom- that student is accepted post A10 with FA.

Maybe you cold call a BS ( not on your original list ) after A10, and they encourage you to apply because someone that very morning gave up their spot and FA, and there isn’t a viable candidate/ app next in line… ( not that they would EVER disclose that information to you ), but I’m sure you can see how luck, determination, and timing ( see BS Gods ) can sometimes play a major role with late placement .

Post FA scenarios- especially the "Where have you been all my life - You’re a perfect fit for us " admissions scenario is always considered fairly rare, but it can- and it does happen- sometimes more often than people think! Without getting anyone’s hopes up too much- you just can’t possibly know if this could be your ultimate outcome unless you try- Hence - Plan B!

First, everyone ( FP and FA ) needs a new and improved mindset: Regardless of your stellar mind-blowing stats and Carnegie Hall appearances ( I know… I know… ) - I strongly suggest compiling a Plan B list of schools taken from the Top 25-50 - which should include some amazing iconic single sex schools. Heck- they’re all pretty amazing and iconic! But be forewarned- these schools are also the top choice for many discerning top students and their families. Just know that before going in… they’re quite popular and have a cult like following like Top Ten schools have , too…

Just not here on CC for whatever bizarre reason.

If you get unpleasant results on M10 just remember this : YOU chose schools that have the most unforgiving acceptance rates in the universe, but that fact doesn’t make other schools in the Top 25-50 " less than" or somehow beneath you. Make sense? Trust me- you won’t be stooping or gracing schools that fall outside the Top Ten with your presence. If you want to move forward- you will need to change the failed mindset that led you to this very unholy place in the first place, and shop all these other wonderful schools outside the Top Ten with renewed spirit, confidence and ( just say it ) intelligence.

Okay- onward. Now that I got that out of my system one last time …

If you do have an unfortunate outcome M10 and do call around to schools post A10, please do not talk to some random receptionist or AO who picks up the phone. A PARENT should always call and ask to speak directly to the Director of Admissions because only he or she will have the info you need . Simply ask them if they’re open to receive a late application and if they are, get it off to them ASAP and follow up. As I’ve mentioned above- you won’t be the only family doing this. If you’re lucky and they invite you for an interview and tour after they’ve read your late app - MOVE MOUNTAINS and GO!! Like my caps? AOs usually don’t extend invitations for an interview and tour Post A10 to anyone unless they like what they see on an app, so go and seal the deal!

SCHOOLS WITH ROLLING ADMISSIONS:

BSs with Rolling Admissions tend to change year to year, but you can find a list of schools on the SSAT website. Last year, there were some top notch schools on the list that I would’ve sent my kids to in a heartbeat. Seriously- I almost fell off my chair when I saw some of the names on the list!! So definitely check it out now and continue to check the list as it gets updated throughout Spring.

Remember- this list changes year to year ( for a myriad of reasons which has NOTHING to do with quality, desirability, or the number of apps they’ve received prior to M10 ) and a school being on the RA list shouldn’t negatively impact anyone’s opinion of the school in any way, shape or form - unless you’re a total snob for whatever reason. Some schools on last year’s list had ( and still have ) a 35% acceptance rate! IDK about you, but I’ve never sneezed at a 35% acceptance rate … but I’d still like to meet anyone who does- just so I know what that sounds like… . :wink:

The Good News: Some amazing BSs also put themselves on Rolling Admissions because they know there are always quality latecomers ( like you! ) who missed the deadline for the last round and they’re encouraging people to apply. They also know that some really great students and their families will get shutout on M10- and there’s absolutely no shame associated with that because it happens all the time. If you see a school or two that you like on the RA list- apply and see what happens!! Even better- if you’re concerned about M10 today , and want to have an edge on other late applicants- call and see if they’ll accept an app now or before or after A9!! What do you have to lose?

More Good News : Whether you go down your own list and cold call schools in the Top 25-50, or take on schools from the SSAT RA List, it is possible to still find placement Post A10 and the school of your new dreams for next year- FA or FP. These schools are in the position to offer ANY student ( FP or FA ) a world class education. It may be more boutique than big box cattle call school, but you will never have to compromise on academic excellence, athletics, campus beauty and college placement. It’s worth a shot.

So- please don’t hesitate to put together a Plan B- especially if you NEED a school for next year. Based on my experience on CC during M10-A10 over waaay too many years , it could arguably be the best use of your time right now leading up to decisions. Do it now while everything is calm, because I can assure you that it won’t be calm later on if you receive all waitlists and rejections.

All the best to everyone and good luck on M10 !!

Amen and Amen.

There is some amazing advice from here. The only other thing I would add as a part of plan B to also find an acceptable non-BS alternative. If LPS is absolutely out of the question, maybe applying to parochial or local independent school or even researching some better nearby districts you could move to if absolutely required. Not only because of potentially bad news on decision day, we also know kids who had change of heart and decided they did not want to go to BS after all (in one case on revisit day to previously ‘dream’ school), and parents who ultimately decided that it is not the right decision for the family, financially or otherwise. And it may worthwhile to have a family discussion about the financial piece of it, too. My older kid (who did not go to BS) has a close friend who desperately wanted to go to BS, and got accepted to one of the two tippy top ones. Alas, her parents pulled the plug when the financial reality hit, being too well off for financial aid yet having too many other financial obligations to feel comfortable to pay that kind of money (and possibly not being entirely sold on the BS idea, too). It was absolutely heartbreaking for the kid at the time. Alas she rallied and ended up having a great HS experience. And is now killing it at Harvard. Overall, the kids in my older kid’s grade who ended up staying did as well or better in college admissions as the ones who left, and HS was much more academic and drama free than MS regardless. So if you don’t get the news you want it may just be sign that different path should be taken. There are such focused and high achieving kids on this board that odds are they will do really well no matter what. And going through this process will just help them to learn a lot about themselves, which will serve them well going forward no matter where they end up. I suspect most of the families who do not get the news they want do not continue to hang out on this board unless they want to try again but if they did, odds are we would find that the kids are doing quite well too.