<p>Yep! I think we are both in agreement fallenchemist. Oh! BTW I got offered Regents at Berkeley, but did not hear from UCLA. To continue this bipolar trend I will probably will be rejected from UCLA 
I would not mind being accepted at Princeton though and rejected at Harvard!!! And I still do not know if I am the bipolar one or if the admissions process is. I am starting to feel weird lol ;)</p>
<p>Olive - It isnât you, LOL.</p>
<p>Thanks fallenchemist! That reassures me! And good luck to you with your acceptances 
Hopefully you will get in one of your first choices.</p>
<p>Olive - Thanks, but I am a parent. My D did get in all the places she applied, with full tuition or better scholarships to 3 of them, 2 of them in her top choices. Wash U was high on her list and she has been accepted but alas, no money from them and we donât qualify for need based, which is a good thing overall I guess. Best of luck to you as well. You have some fabulous choices already and more to come, I am sure.</p>
<p>I got waitlisted as well. Iâm starting to think most of the schools I applied to will waitlist me or reject me. Here are my stats:</p>
<p><a href=âhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/536417-chances-these-schools-3.html#post1062039087[/url]â>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/536417-chances-these-schools-3.html#post1062039087</a></p>
<p>See last page and bottom of last page for most updated stats.</p>
<p>Since I have legacy at Wash U, they put a really depressing sentence in my waitlist letter going, âwe understand your disappointment particularly given your close relation to the school,â or something. Unless that was in everyoneâs letter. Oh well.</p>
<p>Schools have to admit somebody! They are all trying to admit the same somebodies; rich kids with good stats. As this ever more diminished pool flows through the college admission process, many colleges are going to have record low yields and a record number of waitlist admits.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see the effect the economy has on class SAT averages as private colleges admit larger numbers of more affluent kids with lower, but still good stats. I predict the effect will be to widen the gap between the Ivies and other top 25 private schools.</p>
<p>Publics are likely to move up in ranking as their average scores increase due to admits of financially distressed upper middle class kids. More smart people are going to their state flagships and are glad that option is available.</p>
<p>This seems to be a record year for the number of applications submitted by each student.
Anecdotal data from our prep school indicates the number of applications per student (sample~12 this year, 50 to 60 total for previous years) is up by more than 50%. Many of these kids would not have needed FA in previous years but now find their family fortunes diminished. Kids that would have gone to legacy institutions and paid full price are now going to publics.</p>
<p>The impact on rankings, FA and SAT averages will be profound. The rich will get richer (Ivies will gain), the government will become more important (flagship state universities will move up) , and middle echelon privates will move down. Sort of a model for what is happening in the larger economy.</p>
<p>The people getting the short end of this deal are poor kids with good but not excellent stats.</p>
<p>Ivy admissions committees arenât told if a student is going to ask for financial aid - they couldnât âpickâ the rich kids if they wanted too, although there probably is a correlation between legacies and richer kids.</p>
<p>BigG - You make some interesting general points, many of which are very valid. However, in the case of WashU, it looks like stats (SAT, GPA, top 10% etc.) for next yearâs freshman class will at least equal and probably exceed previous years stats.</p>
<p>I got waitlisted. â â â .
Does anyone know how many people were waitlisted this year? </p>
<p>^ My sis is a freshman @ WashU and I got the depressing line too.</p>
<p>ST2,</p>
<p>Letâs see the actual admit stats after the class is formed. You may be correct. Wash.U. is a good school.</p>
<p>The number of Olympic hopefuls with Nobel Prize nominations, perfect SATâs, and a $480,000 EFC that actually enroll at Wash.U. rather than HPY will tell the tale.</p>
<p>Don_Quixote,
I have some resort property in southern Florida I would like to discuss with you. Cash, no checks please.
Professional adcoms can tell who needs aid or not from the data in the application, at least enough to serve institutional priorities.</p>
<p>Things to blame:
Income
Race
âThe Admissions Gameâ
Adcoms
Adcoms having a bad meal
Economy
Over qualification</p>
<p>Definitely not to blame:
You?</p>
<p>We all did all we can do, and now all there is to do is wait. If you didnât give your Washu application 100%, then who is to blame? Congratulations to all those accepted, you clearly stood out; to those waitlisted, vent if you must. In four years, we will all be somewhere, and do you really want to be holding on to this one minute instance in your life?</p>
<p>Be grateful you will be getting an education. Your education is what you make of it :)</p>
<p>BigG - That is great - lets see how many of the described applicants are out there. Possibly you have a few hidden away somewhere, who you are willing to share. In that event I might even be willing to talk to you about resort property (either above or under water - your choice).</p>
<p>ST2,
The property offer was to Don_Quixote, who apparently truly believes professional adcoms are unable to distinguish the socioeconomic class of applicants. These are the people who spend much of their year traveling about the country visiting schools and seeing prospects.</p>
<p>My note to you was hyperbole, the point of which was that neither Wash.U. nor Northwestern or even HYP know who is going to show up until after May 1. Except of course for ED admits.</p>
<p>I really think this year is going to become a watershed in college admissions for everyone.
Because of the economy and ease of application, the previous paradigms are changing.</p>
<p>I apologize if I have offended. I just question how many of Wash.U.'s hyperqualified choices will choose to go there rather than HPY. Isnât the traditional yield around 30%?</p>
<p>It was 34 percent at last USNWR report, the same as Northwestern and just slightly better than JHU and Rice.</p>
<p>BigG - Not offended at all - I was just willing to listen to the property offer in exchange for a few of those Nobel Prize applicants. I should have figured to be dissapointed.</p>
<p>You are right about not knowing who will show up. My statement was based more on the quality of applicants this year. How it will shake out - who knows. It indeed is and will be a very strange year for admissions. Anyone who claims they know the end result, at this stage, is indeed a candidate for your property offer.</p>
<p>1400/23000 = .06086956 or approximately 6% admitted although I know there must be more than 1400 admittance letters. But still, ***? All I can say to Washington University in St. Louis is to give them the middle finger. Screw you WUSTL. Bet me being Asian was part of the reason I got waitlisted.</p>
<p>Thier admit rate is abt 20-30%, because they know that all admitted applicants will not attend. Thereâs no way it could even be close to 6%, because thats assuming almost 100% yield, and that doesnât happen w/ any college</p>
<p>angryasianman-</p>
<p>You just contradicted your pointâŠthey did not have a 6% percent admit rate because as you acknowledged, more than 1400 acceptance letters have been sent out. The acceptance rate will most likely be around 20% like in the past few years.</p>
<p>In acting so immaturely, you merely embarrass yourself and the great school that you will go to next year.</p>
<p>angryasianman</p>
<p>You are awesome.</p>