<p>On a different topic - My D is on the waitlist at UMich for Acting - We would really like to have at least some idea of where she is on the wait list, but is that something she should ask them or would they frown upon that?<br>
Thanks!</p>
<p>UAmom, I am not an expert, but I don't think there is anything wrong with your daughter contacting the department (by phone or email) to inquire as to where she is on the waitlist. I cannot imagine any good college program would frown on a kid showing that kind of interest and initiative. It demonstrates that your daughter values that program and very much wants to be a part of it. The worst that can happen is that they will say that they cannot tell her. That's not so bad, and even better, she might find out! Good luck!</p>
<p>UAMom, she could call to ask if she wants, but it would be more important to express strong interest in attending if she gets off the wait list and to make sure they know that because if a school does need to go to their wait list, they'd be more inclined to make an offer to someone who says they WILL attend rather than waste time with someone who might not. </p>
<p>However, in my opinion, there is a VERY good chance that the wait list is NOT ordered. Speaking of non-BFA schools, I know their wait lists are not in any order. I am currently assisting students on the wait lists at various Ivy League schools, for example, and I know their wait lists are NOT ordered. Rather, IF they utilize the wait list, they will look for candidates who will fill a need in the class make up that might still need to be filled. Likewise with a BFA wait list, I imagine that IF there is a slot or two to be filled in the class, they will look at what sort of slot or what sort of needs they still want for the make up of the group and who on the wait list might fill that need in the grouping. I really do not think the wait list is ordered. What you can do is ask how many are on the wait list and ask how many they have taken off the wait list each year over the last five years to get some idea. However, there is GREAT variation from year to year but you can get some ballpark ideas from that information.</p>
<p>So, rather than ask where she is on the list, which I pretty much doubt is even ordered, she could ask how many are on the list and if they anticipate going to the list this year. However, I doubt they can tell you if they will use the list until they see whom they've got committed to enroll after May 1. That would be the time for that question. Meanwhile, she should be sending them information with updates and expressing her interest in attending if admitted. By the way, my niece if a freshman in that program and enjoys it. Good luck to your D.</p>
<p>You are correct in that to enter Catawba's MT program you audition in your Freshman year. However, they hold scholarship auditions for incoming freshmen who are interested in acting and MT. My daughter attended those auditions and received a performance scholarship from the theatre department, so I guess we're assuming she's been accepted into the program based on that. It is a little confusing!</p>
<p>Thank you! I will definitely check it out.</p>
<p>Thanks all for the advice, my s decided on NCSA. Changing the subject...My s is interested in studying abroad sometime during college but NCSA doesnt offer that so it might mean a summer program if it is feasible. Does any have any suggestions of where to look for a program for drama that wouldnt be a waste of time for someone in a BFA college program in, I suppose, Ireland London scotland or Australia or other english speaking places(I understand Australia is the place to go - i guess if you have some bucks that is).</p>
<p>I just wanted to write a reply on the DePaul subject. I am currently a first year at DePaul and so I know lots of opinions on the cut system. People are cut for lots of reasons, and yes not attending class is one of them. At DePaul we have quarters and every quarter we take 22-26 hours. This is a lot more than most college freshmen loads. Also, 2 of those hours are crew. Every first year is required to do crew. It can definitly come into play when it comes to cuts. A lot of people do not show up to crew because they do not care about it, or they will show up late and not do their best, etc. Finally, DePaul does a very good job of preparing students for the cuts. Students have meetings with all of their Theatre School professors every quarter to let you know what you need to improve on and where you are. And, I think the cut system is there to prepare people for the real world. It is a competive business from the very beginning.</p>
<p>defy, it's great to hear about DePaul from a current student! Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts here. I still do not agree when people say that a college cut system prepares kids for/is the "real world" (in the real world of auditioning for jobs, you are not paying tens of thousands of dollars to the people who may cut you!) but that's not important. The only important thing is that any student who enrolls at DePaul understands the cut system and believes that the benefits of going to that program outweigh the possible costs! Best of luck to all!</p>
<p>hampton, congrats on your son's decision to attend NCSA. He will likely meet several of my D's classmates there. (And if I were you, I wouldn't worry right now about a study abroad program for the future. My guess is that the powers that be at NCSA may well have suggestions and networks in place to help students who do want to study abroad when the time comes, and they will help him. :))</p>
<p>NMR</p>
<p>I'm in total agreement, it's the parents I feel sorry for when there's a cut system with an inflexible number. The kids choose the risk for their own reasons but it is SO tough for a parent to know how much to invest in training for this type of career, it's the issue parents come to me with the most.
And again I agree and must reiterate as a pro of 35 years-harshness of any kind is not necessary as a preparatory tool for an actor. I understand misconceptions occur about my business but that one bothers me the most as it gives the wrong message to young actors, and permission to educators to indulge in negativity for it's own sake. BTW I trained at a school with cuts, and I'm quite sure no one truly talented and dedicated was ever cut The difference was that there was no target number that HAD to be cut, and I remember only a spirit of togetherness, not competition, prevailed the first year. I commend DePaul for phasing out this system, and the spirit of the young actors who still face it and accept the challenge.</p>
<p>I just wanted to comment again on the cut system. I agree with you jbinca, that the set number of students to be cut is where the problem lies. Cuts in general keep a program competitive and make sure every student stays on his or her game. However, with the set number of students to be cut it is hard because talented and dedicated students will no doubt end up cut. I am not an acting major, I'm a directing major. But, I have a lot of interaction with the acting class and of course there are people who have habits alluding to them being cut (i.e. not showing up for class, not showing up for crew, not trying, etc.) But certainly not half the class. I think it goes beyond competitive to extreme. </p>
<p>I myself am hoping to transfer to NYU next year. Not because of the cut stystem, it does not affect my program. However, DePaul does not have a good program in directing and NYU's on the other hand is incredible. I should be hearing any day not so I am very anxious!</p>
<p>Good luck with NYU! I only saw one student directed play while my D was there, but it was excellent! New York is the place to be for a directing major-I wish you all the luck in the world.</p>
<p>hampton, I saw this article in the paper this morning about NCSA grad Adrienne Gould and thought you, and others, might be interested in reading it. We've seen Adrienne in every show she's done at the Stratford Festival and look forward to continuing that summer tradition this year. She's a wonderfully talented and versatile actor.</p>
<p>TheStar.com</a> | entertainment | Adrienne Gould tackles two big roles at Stratford</p>
<p>I had a student accepted to Fordham for acting but she will not be attending due to money restrictions/better scholarship offers elsewhere - although Fordham called her and said "what can we do to get her there?" She just made her decision yesterday. So there may be another student who is offered that position</p>
<p>Yes, those who were fortunate enough to have a number of acceptances that they don't plan to accept themselves need to remember how important it is to let the schools that they won't be attending know that in a timely manner for the sake of the students who are on the waitlist. As difficult as it is to turn down any program, it's made easier knowing that your "no, thanks" is going to lead to another student being very happy to get a phone call or a letter.</p>
<p>NMR is very right, in fact i may have your daughter to thank for my accecptance/final decision (UMinn) :) :) Thank you!</p>
<p>thoroughlymodern, we are so happy for you! Please promise to come back onto this list next year and let us know how you are doing and what you are doing! Minnesota/Guthrie is such a fantastic program and that Guthrie Theatre -- AMAZING! I will never forget my visit there and how magical the whole thing was. Promise to keep in touch!</p>
<p>My daughter has been accepted at Fordham LC and Skidmore; wait listed at Emory and Tufts. Deciding between Fordham LC and Skidmore presents these contrasts...Skidmore affirming community and she could major in the theatre program...Fordham...not accepted in the performance tract...can minor in theatre and reaudition in the spring of her freshman year or choose to wait and do it in the spring of her sophomore year...competition will be stiff...usually take 1 or 2 students.....if selects Fordham would major in English and minor in theatre, flipping this if she is able to get in performance tract, at Skidmore she would major in theatre and minor or double major in English...loves New York City...not wild about Saratoga Springs or the amount of snow she would have to deal with....loves Skidmore's programing as well as Fordham's...</p>
<p>anyone know how theatre minors are treated at Fordham...are they valued and included...she loved the warmth and respect between the theatre professors and their students...is this true in other disciplines? </p>
<p>community seemed easier to happen at Skidmore...anyone have any thoughts about Fordham...</p>
<p>crossroadsmom, my D's arts high school sends quite a few kids every year (mostly dancers, but some actors) to Fordham, so let me ask around for you. I do know that the acting teachers at D's school think highly of Fordham's actor training program and encouraged my D to audition for the performance track. (She decided to attend NYU/Tisch instead, for musical theater.) I agree that Fordham students and profs in the acting track seem to have great relationships; it's something that students mentioned to my D and me over and over during our visit. I will try to ask around tomorrow and get back to you. Wish I could be of more help! If I were your D, the biggest ? mark would be: could she be happy minoring in theater at a place where there are other kids majoring in theater? I think that's an important question.</p>
<p>I made it off the alternate list and got accepted at SUNY Purchase! Now I have to decide if I definitely want to go...</p>
<p>Congrats, BlueRoses1! I will be interested in hearing your decision and your reasons, but regardless, you should be very proud!</p>