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<p>bluebayou: lacrosse???......we live in an area of NJ where everyone has lacrosse...including Newark....and alot of kids swim at the "Y".....must be a regional thing......</p>

<p>and all-state musicians in Nj come from all over the state, including Trenton and Camden.....</p>

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<p>Ballet - $75/pointe shoes, 2 pairs a month.:(</p>

<p>Swimming - new swim suit for men, $500 and only lasts 10-15 min in the water. I was told it floats, maybe even swims for you.</p>

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<p>Fencing isn't cost-prohibitive either...a lot cheaper than music lessons, let me tell you.</p>

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<p>oldfort: wow, i'm getting old....$500 for a swimsuit? better you than me.......lol</p>

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<p>Y'all are missing the point. To get to Carnegie Hall, ya' gotta practice, practice, practice, as the saying goes. And you just can't spend that kinda time practicing AND maintain a high gpa if you are stuffing grocery bags bcos a kid must help out a family financially. </p>

<p>How many public high schools have fencing? Fencing may be cheaper than private music lessons, but it still costs money and that is the point -- ya' gotta have some money to participate; perhaps not be rich, but at least middle class (which means less finaid requried). </p>

<p>How many of the Duke (or Hopkins or Syracuse or Georgetown or UVa or UNC) lacrosse players are poor (take a look-see at the rosters and count the prep schools). </p>

<p>How many pools exist in Newark? How many are indoor? Are they open at 5:00 am for practice during the school year? Is the Y open at that hour? Do the busses run at that hour? (The pools in South-Central LA surely are not.)</p>

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<p>rodney - not my kid, it's my friend's kid. I only do ballet shoes.</p>

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<p>D's ECs</p>

<p>Ballet, pointe, tap, jazz - 7 classes/week + gear
saxophone needs private lessons
alpine skier 2 days/week in winter
snowmobling (some of those ski days end up on a snowmobile)
off-shore saltwater fishing (weekends in warm weather)</p>

<p>Your right that there is not time to have a paying job during the school year and the above is probably a "does not qualify for FA" flag.</p>

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<p>Good point Bluebayou.
I also want to add that the kids who are serious fencers tend to have a private coach. They also travel to other countries to compete.</p>

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<p>It would be interesting to know if colleges have been caught in lies where policy is concerned in the past. </p>

<p>Off the top of my head I can think of ivies and other colleges lying about discriminating against Jews in the 50's when they systematically did. They say they don't quota by race, nationality, school, etc. when they clearly do. UC's claim not to consider race when several clearly do through "holistic" admission. And didn't UCLA get caught in some policy lie recently?</p>

<p>Any other examples?</p>

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<p>Well, there is a difference between colleges lying and adcoms breaking the rules. If someone says they are black in a UC essay and the reader gives them high marks, you can't be sure in any individual case why they did so. </p>

<p>Maybe a reader for another college doesn't want his/her employer's endowment depleted by financial aid, and decides the pick the kid who has hang gliding for an E.C. </p>

<p>In either case, you can't really blame the college.</p>

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<p>i see this as being good news for me, but i totally sympathize with others that see this as bad news. Especially as an international student who can pay full fees, this puts me at an advantage</p>

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<p>Lockn, I'd say if the colleges that meet 100% of need don't give out more financial aid dollars overall and to a higher percentage of students this year, we'll know it's systemic.</p>

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<p>Why so short lived in the water?</p>

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<p>All right, musicamusica gave me my CC laugh of the day!</p>

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<p>I think colleges lie all the time about various matters of policy -- what's to stop them? It would be hard to prove.</p>

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<p>No, it is the responsibility of those families earning more than $250K a year. ;)</p>

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<p>I was one of those kids who considered myself lucky to be able to afford a state school back in the 60's, a private school was never considered a possibility. Partly because of that I worked and saved to be sure I would have enough money to send my daughter to any school she was accepted to attend. Up until now I have been feeling stupid- my neighbor, who blows every penny he earns the minute he gets it, will have his daughter's total college bill paid if both girls are accepted to their school of choice, while my bill will actually go up this year to cover added costs.<br>
The news that my kid might actually have an edge in being accepted this year as a full pay student is music to my ears. It would be great to have some advantage to all of the scrimping and saving.</p>

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<p>Merryecho: you aren't alone!</p>

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The news that my kid might actually have an edge in being accepted this year as a full pay student is music to my ears. It would be great to have some advantage to all of the scrimping and saving.

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<p>Totally agree. I never understood the mentality of people who believe they deserve a free, $50K education, just because they are smart. And that giving a spot to a lower scoring applicant who is actually willing to pay for it is some sort of travesty.</p>