<p>what are my chances?</p>
<p>3.85 GPA from Hofstra University</p>
<p>3.8 GPA from summer courses at UCLA</p>
<p>i have 33 credits, which means i fortunately don’t have to submit my high school transcript!</p>
<p>thanks in advance</p>
<p>need more info. those are some good GPAs though, so from that info alone i'd say your chances are good. </p>
<p>I'm a transfer. Feel free to im me at NapoleoninRaggs if you wanna talk transfer!</p>
<p>to the OP are you sure you don't have to send your high school transcripts? From what I've seen, all of the schools I am applying to (including Brown) require you to send in your high school transcripts...if you have 60+ credits, they don't pay as much attention to it, but at 30 credits (sophomore standing) they will be using it...if I'm wrong please correct me.</p>
<p>i just checked the Brown transfer admissions website and it says that you only need to send your college grades if you've completed at least a year's worth of credits. BUT- you also need to send your SAT scores! AHH i am so screwed! :(</p>
<p>hey maybe i am the idiot here...but i just fail to understand why univs need SAT's for transfers...I mean its supposed to predict your college performance but once its already infront of you how a kid is performing what is the need of SAT</p>
<p>the only reason that SATs matter is that they verify your GPA. If you attend a less respected college (or CC) or you are an international student where little is known about the quality of your school, standardized tests verify that you are as smart as your school record shows.</p>
<p>except for the fact that the SAT is a poor measure of intelligence....</p>
<p>So what is a good measure of intelligence?</p>
<p>That's what makes it so difficult, GH. It's very hard to get a good standardized measure of intelligence. But the SAT doesn't come close to cutting it.</p>
<p>It's good enough for a rough estimate. I can't really see people coming up with a test that's not going to be hugely controversial anywya</p>
<p>You from LI?</p>
<p>Well this one isn't good. Studies have shown that white males from the upper classes do the best on it. Are white males from the upper classes the smartest people in our society, inherently, or is the test skewed? We need to completely rethink the system and create a test that doesn't just test one kind of knowledge with tricky little questions that takes training to understand.</p>
<p>Just to play devil's advocate: white people do better on standard IQ tests, too (in America -- and Americans do better than those in developing countries). Does that mean they're smarter? No, it means that they're more likely to have been exposed to enriching materials when they were younger (books, toys which encouraged spacial thinking, etc) which would enable them to realize the full potential of their intelligence. I don't think anybody would argue that we should ban CR and Writing from the SAT entirely just because literacy rates are higher for whites than for blacks, or that these literacy rates differ because of some inherent racial differences (rather than difference in environment).</p>
<p>Rather, we should seek to design a test that is as culturally neutral as possible, and less "coachable," to prevent those with an economic advantage from using it to get better test scores. We should advocate education reform and tax reform to give badly needed resources to schools in poor areas, instead of holding them to some ridiculous standard without the tools they need to reach it. We should seek to end both deliberate discrimination and unconscious bias against the poor and racial minorities, so that eventually they will be at no disadvantage when it comes to college admissions.</p>
<p>"Rather, we should seek to design a test that is as culturally neutral as possible, and less "coachable," to prevent those with an economic advantage from using it to get better test scores."</p>
<p>The point is that such a test is impossible to make. Of course rich people are going to score higher on ANY standardized test, because on average they have better education! You can't make a test which is the same for everybody and not "coachable". The fact of the matter is that non-Asian minorities aren't as rich on average as white people, and thus are going to score lower on the test. Is it fair to the kid that he grew up in the ghetto? No, but that's why we have things such as AA to compensate. Also, it's funny that whenever people argue "bias" in the SAT they conveniently leave out the best scoring group--Asians (which are also the wealthiest ethnic group in the country). I guess it just makes your argument sound better when you say "white people do the best" instead of "Asians do the best".</p>
<p>I didn't say that white people do the best. I said that white people on average do better than black people. Asians do better than white people -- Asians also have a higher average income than white people.</p>
<p>I didn't say we should make a test that was completely culturally neutral or completely uncoachable. I said "as culturally neutral as possible" and "less 'coachable.'" Just because we'll never have a perfect test doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to make the best test we can in the real world.</p>
<p>i am interested in transferring to brown as well, but i dont have a good idea of what they expect out of a junior transfer. i attend rice now and have a good gpa. i have a job, play intramural soccer, studied abroad in germany this summer, but thats pretty much it. my interests are really wide, and i will have decent recommendations. are grades the most important thing as a junior transfer?</p>
<p>Your essay is probably the most important factor. Why you want to transfer is important to them. </p>
<p>I'm a transfer; feel free to IM me, NapoleonInRaggs, or PM me or whatever.</p>