<p>I’m not a physicist, but if you’re interested, there are definitely college classes you should take.</p>
<p>But this I can say–just because we don’t understand why something happens right now doesn’t mean that we ultimately will not or cannot. In Galileo’s time, 99% of people thought the sun revolved around the earth, and those in power were ready to execute Galileo for his heresy if he did not back down, as he ultimately did out of fear for his life.</p>
<p>^My uncle is a physicist at Berkeley and we’ve talked about this issue many times. He tells me that these questions are better left to the philosophers, since there is no current scientific law that can explain how matter originated. So you’re correct. The origin of matter isn’t something we can understand. Until we do, I respectfully suggest that placing one’s faith in a divine creator is every bit as acceptable as placing one’s faith in philosophers (or ignoring the question altogether), and disrespecting those who are religious is arrogant. All of my older siblings and several of my mother’s siblings have Ph.D’s and teach in elite universities. All but two are religious, so please do not couple being religious with being uneducated.</p>
<p>You have a fair point on that account. But there are issues for which we have very good evidence to support a particular explanation, such as the origins of life, and how genes and species change over time. To willfully ignore that accumulation of scientific evidence–which I am sure your relatives would not espouse –would smack of ignorance, whether due to religious arrogance (my understanding is that even the Catholic church now is not opposed to the teaching of evolution) or simply wanton contrariness. My original point regarded only the origin of life, used for illustrative purposes. It was you who brought up the issue of the origins of the universe as a whole, and, by implication, falsely equated the opacity of that question to an obligate insufficiency of scientific knowledge in other areas (or in general?).</p>
<p>^ You both (and others) might find this to be of interest:</p>
<p>[Nature</a>, “Leading scientists still reject God”* July 23, 1998](<a href=“Top Cash Earning Games in India 2023 | Best Online Games to earn real money”>Top Cash Earning Games in India 2023 | Best Online Games to earn real money)</p>
<p>^ And speaking of physics, the beginning of the universe, and Penn, there happens to be an exceptionally relevant article in today’s Daily Pennsylvanian:</p>
<p>[A</a> step closer to the God particle | The Daily Pennsylvanian](<a href=“http://www.thedp.com/article/step-closer-god-particle]A”>http://www.thedp.com/article/step-closer-god-particle)</p>
<p>As good a way as any to try to get this thread back on track. :)</p>
<p>wow, i was just thinking about that in the car. and yea, i guess we come of slightly~ snobby, but hell, we definitely deserve some hard-earned recognition;)</p>
<p>@ old college try: the difference between science and religion is that when science doesn’t know something, it doesn’t assert it as the truth. Just because science doesn’t have the evidence to prove something does not mean that assertions made by religion are true. Yes, perhaps but are equally ‘believable’ but the real problem is why you would believe ANYTHING at all based on no evidence.</p>
<p>And btw, citing your relatives doesn’t mean much. I’m astounded that people think being at a prestigious institution is proof for any claim.</p>
<p>PS - to those who are religious, I mean no offense, just pointing a flaw in an argument.</p>
<p>I just tell people I went to Wharton.</p>
<p>Mighty pretentious… although I admit that I’m guilty of doing that too…</p>
<p>I say…I went to Penn. And I’m okay with that.</p>
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<p>You must get some funny looks from people when you tell them: “I went to Penn. And I’m okay with that.”</p>
<p>:p</p>
<p>They think it’s a product of the fortune I’ve paid in psychotherapy so that I don’t just quiver in the corner and implore, “Why, Yale–why didn’t you take me?” :-P</p>
<p>To be honest with you, the only people that I know that didn’t recognize Penn as a prestigious university have been people with little or no education or class.</p>
<p>Take note of the fact that those kids and your principal wont be hiring you. The people that do the hiring know Penn.</p>
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AHAHAHA so true
they also dont believe in evolution. sigh</p>
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<p>Unfortunately, you fail to “recognize” the irony of your statement.</p>
<p>:D @iamtbh</p>
<p>I’m from a pretty small town in Wisconsin and a couple years ago (when my College interests were a bit different) my newspaper interviewed me about something I was doing in school. At the end, they asked where I was interested in going to College. I said I was a little young to choose but I liked the University of Pennsylvania, Stanford, Harvard, and the UW. In the paper, they ended up printing I was interested in UW, Harvard, Penn State, and Samford.</p>
<p>"Take heart in the fact that 2/3 of the people in this country also think that man appeared on this planet spontaneously in his present form a few thousand years go. Always consider the source. "</p>
<p>As a devoted Christian and evolutionist, I too think its funny how ignorant our nation is. However, I doubt 2/3s of Europeans renounce biology too. Yet, I’m not sure if this was an attempt to manufacture an arugment here or not…so I will not comment further.</p>
<p>It wasn’t meant to be analyzed to the extreme that people have taken it on this thread.</p>