<p>Most people don’t know UPenn is a good school, never mind Ivy League.</p>
<p>there's been a thread about this before, as it's confused with penn state and such... but think about it this way, people who think that are ignorant... their opinions don't matter... wow that sounded elitist... but it's true!!!</p>
<p>who ran for president of the United States in 2004? Bush, Kerry, Dean (A BUNCH OF YALE GRADS).</p>
<p>Bush Senior and Clinton also have Yale degrees...</p>
<p>If you want to play with the big boys today, you need Harvard or Yale... </p>
<p>Penn is only good for Wharton.</p>
<p>So what exactly IS your point?</p>
<p>ONe who contols money controls affairs. Wharton grads control the money. So Wharton happens to control those Yale and Harvard grads ;). Steve Cohen, Mike Milken, Carl Ichan. Those names are enough.</p>
<p>I don't get it.Oo. Do you really have THAT much free time on your hands to post stuff to bash a school that you obviously don't like just so you can contribute to our post count? In that case! Thanks. Now, go to bed, wake up, and get a life.</p>
<p>I think BarryD's point is: "When you tell someone that you have a degree from Penn, do they immediately realize that it is a very prestigious university, and also an Ivy League school? Is a Penn degree comparable to one from Harvard or Yale?" Sure, this concern may appear insultive to some, but I think it is a valid enquiry, and not a reason to start telling the poster to "get a life", even though the question could've been phrased much better.</p>
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<p>Geees...make up you mind Barry, you just posted this on another thread today. Kind of fickle aren't you? Or are you just "trolling" around?</p>
<p>Like Catch-22 said: get a life</p>
<p>good thing i'm using my early on penn or else the admit rate is like 15%... with ed it's closer to 30-35% :D</p>
<p>As a student from Penn you need to prepare yourself for the inevitable: folks will think you go to school at Penn State and that Joe Paterno, a Brown Alum, is the football coach. Sad but oh so true. General public......not potential employers, not graduate schools.</p>
<p>Good Luck Barry......I see you will be applying to 2 schools. I sure hope you get one of the lucky numbers because MANY qualified applicants don't. I repeat QUALIFIED APPLICANTS. Perhaps you will remain at your day job for 3 or 4 years while you wait for your fat envelope from THE 2 Schools.</p>
<p>Honestly, stop caring about whether people will realize if it's an ivy league school. If that is why you're going, that is so pathetic. I nthe real world, people will respect you for you not because you went to Princeton and you're a total jackass.</p>
<p>Anyone who has a least bit of intelligence knows that UPenn is a great school, not only because it's a part of the Ivy League (although that should be enough), but also because it has a great faculty, student body, etc ... everything.</p>
<p>Bill Gates dropped out of college... as did the rolling stones...</p>
<p>None of the beatles went to university... </p>
<p>your point is void.</p>
<p>BarryD kinda reminds me of Richieboy from a few months ago...remember him?</p>
<p>"General public......not potential employers, not graduate schools."</p>
<p>This is probably true. But, I'd rather potential employers and graduate schools know of my school than the general public. </p>
<p>Penn State should change its name.</p>
<p>BarryD is a provocateur....people like this only are happy when they stir things up. Ignore them and they sometimes go away!!</p>
<p>Thinkjose1......potential employers and graduate schools are well aware of Penn. The general public could not name all 8 Ivy schools on a good day....nor could they tell you what the Ivy League originated as.</p>
<p>everyone seriously just needs to calm down about the whole "ooh let's bash this school this isn't as prestigious as this this is better than this" deal...just makes for an argument that sounds like a bunch of whiny 3rd graders--seriously people i'm assuming all of us here are college hopefuls so our discussion ought be more mature than that</p>
<p>Potential Employers, grad schools, and everyone that "matters" will know what Penn is. And Penn (any undergrad school at penn), for everyone but a certain set of naive high school juniors and seniors, is just as prestigious as any other prestigious school and that is a cold hard fact.</p>