I agree with alot of what’s already been posted about Randall & Kevin. They both said horrible things to each other, but seem to have reached a reconciliation by the time Rebecca is near death.
They set us up to think that the young woman at the art gallery was Kevin’s gf (dating a celebrity), but…surprise, not.
At the end, I was surprised to see the female vet walk into Nicky’s trailer. Are we not done with her storyline?
Question: The scenes of the grown up Jack and his wife seem to show hi having sight. Do we think he’ll have some surgery down the road that gives him sight?
Ds2 called soon after the episode. He doesn’t watch so I was explaining the fight to him and in doing so I clearly was madder at Randall than Kevin. Randall is at a point in therapy where the onion is getting unpeeled but he hasn’t figured out how to constructively deal with that. I feel like what he said was much worse than what Kevin said. Randall has had time in therapy to think about his feelings. I feel like Kevin was lashing out instinctively.
But I don’t hate Randall as some of you have stated. What I think this show does so well is to delve into our complexities as humans. No one is 100% good or 100% evil.
I also want to add that this episode really hit home for me. My dad died this month, and my brother and I (my sister supports my stance but is being passive) aren’t in agreement about what should happen with our 87yo mom. He doesn’t want her living on her own because he is scared something will happen to her; I think she should get to have some level of autonomy. My sister already pays her bills, and we’ve taken away the car keys. I feel like Randall (and my brother) are so scared that they aren’t letting her have enough say in what she wants. Kevin, like me, must have read Being Mortal, which talks about end-of-life quality. I highly recommend it!
Am I crazy? Or did Nicky have a wedding ring on his hand at Rebecca’s future deathbed scene? And we saw the divorced girl veteran come into Nicky’s RV…I think they set us up to wonder if she and Nicky get together???
I will rewatch tonight. I try not to watch tv during the day, trying to keep some kind of schedule and order in my quarantined life.
Question—Has any filming been done yet for the fall season? I know this is a selfish thought, and is meaningless in the life and death world we live in. The reality is that tv production will be delayed, so I am trying not to count on seeing any This Is Us new episodes until spring 2021.
I love the idea of Council of Dads, but could we start a new thread for that show?
I did not watch it last night, but the commercials made the show seem worth watching. And I will need something to distract me from reality!
Is the next season the last season?
ETA: Where were Kate or Toby when Jack’s baby was born? Why was the sister the only family there? That stood out to me after all the talk about family in this episode.
I don’t think so. I believe they planned out storylines for six seasons??
Having a character go to therapy on a tv show, wow this is a deep and intense show.
So I do not hate anyone, just interested to see real conflict played out instead of stuffing feelings or gossiping to other family members.
The show was like Dr. K’s message. There was a lot of happy mixed with some real sad.
I felt gut punched with the low blows dished out by both Randall and Kevin. It was known there was a falling out, but I expected it to be about the current issue with their mom, not such deep seated resentments. Those words are going to make reconciliation awful hard, but I’m hopeful it happens way before the death bed scene, since Kevin’s son is so familiar with his Uncle Randall.
All the segments about new family additions were heartwarming, though.
I thought the doctor was there to be Kevin and Madison’s Dr K, starting by getting her to give Kevin a chance to be a dad. But it was a lot of show time with father, daughter and horse to be that simple.
And the show always leaves us wondering. Nicky does have a wedding band on and why did we see Sophie and Cassidy? Is Madison going to be Kevin’s wife or the just the mother of his children? Where is Kate at the end?
Love this show!
And the Kate and Toby relationship? Looks like they are in a good spot now, but it isn’t long until 40th birthday at cabin and Kate is signing with her maiden name.
So we are left wondering, which means the season finale did its job in keeping us hooked.
I thought that if Kate had died by the time Jack’s baby was born that he’d name his daughter after his mother, like he’s named after Kate’s father. But I guess that would’ve given too much away - both Kate and Toby could be dead that far in the future or estranged from Jack or just not at the hospital yet.
Do we know that Kate didn’t keep her maiden name when she and Toby got married?
Am I imagining it, or did Kate have a speech about raising Jack with hope?
I’m confused about the 40th birthday thing, because it looked like last night WAS the 40th birthday. They all had their 39th birthday last fall, and Baby Jack’s 1st ought to be the Big Three’s 40th. Plus, in the cabin scene, “we” weren’t talking to Randall, and Rebecca was clearly not in St. Louis. In retrospect the cabin scene flashforward from earlier in the season is a bit of a conundrum. Maybe it was their 41st birthday.
I liked the way they gave Sophie and Cassidy each a cameo in the episode. I interpreted it as a wave goodbye to characters I liked. But maybe they are holding out the possibility for future involvement. Like others, I noticed the continuing absence of Madison from the flashforwards, even after that could no longer be justified by coyness over who was going to be the mother of Kevin’s child(ren).
Another moment I loved: Beth hustling everyone out of the house to get out of the way before Kevin and Randall started talking.
My wife was talking about coronavirus, and I had trouble hearing Baby Jack’s baby’s name. I had assumed it was going to wind up being Rebecca – why would it have been anything else? – but what I half-heard was something that sounded like Sophie. Was that right? What was that about? (Also – what’s up with the OB/GYN’s horse and his horse-whispering tween? It sure felt like we were going to see more of them next season.)
Yes . . . there’s a weird, otherwordly quality watching TV shows that are supposed to be taking place in the present, and they are so odd – people going to work in offices with other people, congregating with friends and family in close quarters, sharing food. It’s so nice, but a little strange, in that alternate universe!
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Is the next season the last season?
I’ve given birth to 3 kids. Neither my parents nor my in-laws were there when I gave birth. They all came the day after. I know maybe one or two friends who had their mom there but this thing on TV where the whole extended family waits in the waiting room…I’ve never seen it in real life.
I’m not sure why everyone gives Beth so much credit. Randall is her husband. Instead of stepping aside, maybe she should be telling Randall what a narcissist he is. Call him out on his actions instead of just tip-toeing around him. I’d be pissed at her too if I was Kevin. She knew Randall forced his mother into this and she knew Randall was making his mother lie about it.
MohnGedachtnis - They named the baby Hope.
@MohnGedachtnis I was also expecting them to say “Rebecca”, but the baby’s name is Hope.
My daughter said that both Nicky and Kevin had wedding bands on.
Kevin did for sure. Didn’t notice Nicky. Just that he seems now comfortable in the new, nice trailer that Kevin got for him.
I loved the fight between the brothers. Great TV, yes, But since I have terrible relationships with my siblings, and I run from confrontation (IRL anyway), I’d love to verbally sock it to them like that. Tell exactly how I feel about them, with so much passion. It’s like I was living the moment, that will never be, through the brothers. Loved it!!
I thought the “secret” thing that Toby and Kate kept alluding to turned out to be really lame.
I didn’t necessarily think Kevin’s kids were twins. I even thought the girl looked older. It made me think perhaps the daughter was Madison’s and the boy from another woman.