<p>Grotongirlie, that sort of situation is definitely frustrating. And people jumping down your back for one single venting post, rather than acutally reading your vent, that's also even more frustrating. But you are defending yourself rather indignantly, you have to admit. I never thought I would actually listen to trite stuff like "there are always people less fortunate than you," but in your situation it applies. You're upper middle class. Richer people might be able to game their way into good schools. That's the way it goes. I still believe that the majority of people who get into a good school (you EA with Yale) got in on their own merit. I HAVE to believe it, or else I'd just give up.</p>
<p>Ok.. let's forget a second that grotongirlie is a legacy.</p>
<p>Let's try and debate the point she brings up, which is valid, instead of whether her bringing it is hypocritical or not. We're getting too caught up in shooting the messenger..</p>
<p>The message, folks, was about a girl getting into H on wealth being fair/unfair. And I think some people have said this, and it is right: a few rich people get in on purse strings, but it benefits the many. Necessary evil? There are maybe 5-10 tops (just a guess) in a class of 1500 that get in on such extreme measures, and they do the whole class good, so I for one don't mind too much.</p>
<p>OH MY GOD! ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT LISTENING??????????????? Not all of you, some of you sound genuinely nice and actually get it.:)
Lets go over this one more time....yes I got into Yale BUT I have 12 AP's, all 5's, a 4.1 gpa, nearly 2300 on my SAT's, outstanding and I am not bragging but really fantastic ec's with a lot of staying power and consistency, so with that I got into Yale EA, am hoping for H. and S. "harvard girl" as shes now become known has a 2.9 GPA, 1800 SAT, almost no ec's, and a pretty mediocre overall record and not even through legacy which that I could understand more but through her dads wealth, has a really good shot of getting in. I mean she is well well below the norm here, guys.....do you not see this? I mean if she had the stats, then by all means that money is a nice little hook to push her over on their side but come on, we are talking someone who would probably barely make it into BU~</p>
<p>I AM NOT I AM NOT IAM NOT COMPLAINING.......I AM DIFFERENT SO DON'T SAY I AM NOT. I AM NOT HYPROCRITICAL, MURKY, get your facts straight seroiusly, you have no idea what you are talking about.</p>
<p>Kamil, thank you for actually acknowledging that perhaps MY OWN record of what I have accomplished is actually something worthy of these colleges I want to get into. I do understand why you speak of those with no legacy/no major money and realize the reality and know I am indeed very lucky, that is why I tried hard not to sound condescending. Are you in at H. or waiting like me?</p>
<p>Guppy thanks for seeing my side. Snipe and score, I am over myself and believe me not looking from sympathy from you or anyone else.........score, it sounds like you need a really good laugh, get all that pented up frustration inside of you to come out, let it out already. You both have it all wrong.</p>
<p>To all the rational ones out there, I totally respect your opinions even if we don't agree on this situation, I really don't get it but at the same time fully respect that we all see it a little differently.</p>
<p>How about you wait till the girl actually gets in before you go on this gigantic rant</p>
<p>Mallomar,I actually have thought about that, and its a good point but when I started this thread, (never forseeing the revolution that it has become) I was merely raising a point, thats all and i know this goes on everywhere. Just last year in our local paper there was a similiar situation with a asian boy who had best grades, 2400 Sat,etc............and another boy whose dad founded a huge tech co. and guess who got in? Tech boy had 3 c's on his senior grades! So........not only was the local media a part of this but a major investigation went down, and is still going on, from what I understand, the asian boy is now at Stanford, where he had originally gotten in, but it was a pretty blaring story of how this happens all the time, more often than what any of us want to realize. I was just adding to that and venting my personal frustrations with it, thats all....apparently I really stirred up the pot. Hey, thanks everyone you gave me a great excuse to ignore the ever growing pile of hw on my desk:)</p>
<p>CCers can be pretty nasty at times. There was a thread after SCEA decisions in which a Stanford admit posted her stats (apparently trying to be helpful). She had several pages of angry CCers informing her that she only got in because she was black. :eek:</p>
<p>From what you are saying...I have a feeling the person is question ("Harvard girl" or whatever) may not even get in. If she does...oh well. You have the satisfaction of knowing that she's riding on her daddy's coattails and you got in because of your hard work, talent etc. </p>
<p>Colleges need money...that's a fact that's probably never going to change. Just be aware developmental cases consist of a very small percentage of the class.</p>
<p>warblersrule........ the irony here is that if I never mentioned I got into Yale EA, I wouldn't have gotten slammed the way I have, pretty dumb on my part. This whole "gripe" from these people is that I am spoiled brat because I have something amazing under my belt but still looking for something else which I discovered rather late is in fact my first choice. IF i never mentioned Yale, I have a feeling the tune would have changed and I would have had more supporters, although several pm'ed me and were very kind and also dissed many of the posters here....but I guess they didn't want to get into any kind of "confrontations" so they chose to communicate behind the scenes, good call. I guess I gave my fellow cc'ers more credit and figured they were above this kind of jabbing and interrogation. Boy was I wrong. Nasty is indeed the right word.</p>
<p>That makes me really mad. I hate it when ppl get in just b/c they're rich or legacies, esp. top colleges. harvard should be for ppl who work for it</p>
<p>Honestly speaking though, Groton, I AM kind of jealous that you got into Yale ;) Maybe if you weren't legacy you still could have gotten in. But when you mention you're a legacy, the whole perception changes... especially for elite colleges as these. Man, I wish I was a legacy -_-;</p>
<p>so...a yale legacy who comes from a wealthy family, a family so elite that it sent her to one of the most prestigious private schools, is complaining about unfairness. The hypocrisy is startling. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but to post something like this is completely obnoxious and probably the worst thing I have ever seen on CC.</p>
<p>From earlier in the thread:</p>
<p>"So what it boils down to is that you resent the fact that someone else is richer than you and that their money gets them into college. If your positions were reversed, I highly doubt you would say "damn, that poor smart girl deserves to go to Harvard. I'm totally unworthy because I'm dumb and rich. Maybe I should give her some clothes from my shopping trip. Or I should give her five million bucks to donate to Harvard just to even the playing field."</p>
<p>Actually, the OP doesn't go to Groton, so the screen name is misleading.</p>
<p>She did say that she went there for a year and hated it, and is now back at her local public school. However, I doubt it was the price tag that was the problem.</p>
<p>To Grotongirl: I'm waiting, but I honestly don't care much about Harvard. I applied simply for my parents and partially for my own ego. </p>
<p>And I think it's a necessary evil to accept the rich kids with money. They allow all of the new buildings to be constructed, the high tech lab equipment to be purchased, and the decent financial aid to be handed out. </p>
<p>Of course, now that Harvard has such a huge endowment, it does seem unnecessary, but they say tradition is hard to break. Besides, it's human nature to want more money.</p>
<p>Patriot, you know NOTHING about me, yes I did go to Groton for one year hence the name but didn't like it and came back to school here. Don't judge please! If this is one of the most obnoxiuos posts you have read, you obviously haven't been around long. IF I hadn't mentioned i got in EA to Yale, you wouldn't have said what you did, so you are not insightful enough obviously to understand my gripe and see this situation for what it is, you are one of the more ignorant ones who obviously got so stuck on me being in at Yale and thinking I am from Groton that you lost sight of what the post was about. And you know i am wealthy too? Wow you really know alot. NOT!</p>
<p>how very ingratiating</p>
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I wonder which local public high school this development case girl goes? This high school must be in a very very rich neighborhood.</p>
<p>grotongirlie - I understand what you are saying but you are more fortunate than you realize. There are posters here who were deferred from either HYP ect and who were truly compelling candidates in every sense and who know of other students from their high schools who did not have as high grades and SAT scores, and who did not have any significant extra curriculars to speak of, who were accepted because they were a legacy development admit. I am even talking about applicants who have individual international and national recognition/awards in unique areas that would be very attractice to most ivy league schools and extaordinary community service. But, if one comes from a state for only a small number are accepted early, and most of those spots go to recriuted athletes, development admits, and under represented minorities, there are not enough spaces for many extremely talented applicants. You are fortunate because you got into Yale early and your legacy status might have given you an edge. You are fortunate because you got into one of the best schools in the country. How do you think other applicants feel who were deferred but saw less deserving students get in? You wont get any sympathy on this thread.</p>
<p>Grotongirlie, you might want to check the stats of some of us on this thread. You'll be surprised. We're not weak applicants who feel a need to attack you to boost our own ego as you so quickly assumed.</p>
<p>At this point it has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation but the groton matriculation list that you posted is from 2002-2006, not just for 2006. </p>
<p>I understand what you are saying about how it can be frustrating to see $$$ play such a big factor in college admissions at places like Harvard. I hope you aren't taking a lot of the angry responses too personally. It can be difficult to sympathize with someone who just got admitted to Yale SCEA and isn't ecstatic. Many of us would do anything for a chance to go to Yale.</p>