<p>how people with good gpas but bad sat scores always say that thier gpa is more important than one saturday morning of filling in bubbles for the SAT</p>
<p>well not everyone is natuarally good at sats
some people spent years investing into study time for them
just like those who invested years into their gpa!</p>
<p>Some kids have good GPAs because they can cheat their way up, but let them try cheating on the SAT, unless of course they can break into HQ and steal the answers.</p>
<p>My solution: I'm taking the ACT and making a 31, which I'm proud of. I hate to say it, but if you're not good at one of the tests, you're making excuses for not doing well. If you have a good GPA from a GOOD school, you should have NO trouble.</p>
<p>No, because studying extensively for the SAT sort of defeats the purpose of the test. Taking a practice test or the PSAT just so you know what's going to be on the test is one thing, but the test wasn't designed with the idea that people would be doing endless amounts of prep.</p>
<p>Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to cheat on the SAT.</p>
<p>For example,</p>
<p>I know someone who has friends in another country 9 hours ahead of us. That person sent him the SAT essay question when he finished his SAT, which was still several hours before it was time in California to take it. This person found out the SAT essay question several hours in advance and used that to his advantage.</p>
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how people with good gpas but bad sat scores always say that thier gpa is more important than one saturday morning of filling in bubbles for the SAT</p>
<p>well not everyone is natuarally good at sats
some people spent years investing into study time for them
just like those who invested years into their gpa!</p>
<p>anyone agree?
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<p>Naturally good at SAT's? The SAT's are just a set of questions. If you are not naturally good at answering questions...I mean if you get nervous that is fine but that is what retakes are for. I am glad the SAT's exist because they but everyone in the nation on a level playing field. Would you rather your GPA be compared directly with that from students in your local public school? Sure that might not happen if you are applying to close by schools that know the "local" school climate but once you apply to schools far away from home things may change. In any case the field is stacked in favor of high GPA candidates with tough courseloads. Someone in that category does not need 700+ on a section to get into a top school.......but someone with the scores DOES need the GPA.</p>
<p>Again IMO the only excuse for not doing well on the SAT is "I got really nervous." The prerequisite knowledge is not beyond HS students at all. If you did get nervous then retake. Also realise that many people (including me) got a little nervous but still did well.</p>
<p>I used to hate the SAT/ACT...but I like it now. I think it shows the rigor of my school and curriculum via my score. It shows that rank and GPA aren't always good indicators of how prepared you are.</p>
<p>i like the SAT, even though it was pretty annoying when my friend who was clueless about lit guessed randomly and got a 750 while i really like lit/excel in my AP Lit class only got 760. nevertheless, i think it's better than just basing it on GPA. it really gets me mad since my school is so competitive that a B student could probably be valedictorian at surrounding schools so I have a much lower GPA. well, i also suck at math. but that's not the point.</p>
<p>First of all this is not true. Its not just people in America taking the test and certain people definitely have advantages over others. And the only excuse isn't I got nervous. Many schools in America use standardized testing in their education. At my school I've never taken a standardized test in my life. I'd never even considered you could do multiple choice math or literature. That prepares people more for the questions and style of testing.</p>
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<p>That's the whole problem with the SAT. You spend so much time trying to do well in a test that doesn't even measure your intelligence very accurately. Personally, I prefer the british testing system. It covers nearly every subject I can think of, its not restricted to math and english. It's mostly not multiple choice too.</p>
<p>I completely agree. I did the IGCSE program and found it a much better indicator of achievement/intelligence etc. It was real knowledge. I think there was one multiple choice section on one science paper.</p>
<p>I think its a really good system. There is actual critical analysis in the English sections and "real math". I have a hard time accepting multiple choice math.</p>
<p>The thing I hate about multiple-choice math is that even if you know how to solve a problem, if you make one silly mistake (i always make a bunch) you get the whole thing wrong. I underestimated the math section the first time I took the SAT and ended up with a 670 even though I'm really good at math, I got an A* and A in the IGCSE and A-Level math. </p>
<p>But with the millions of students that take the SAT's, you can't really expect college board to have hand graded tests. It takes the whole summer for british exams to be graded even with much fewer students taking them.</p>
<p>I know. I got an A on IGCSE math and I'm taking IB Math Higher Level and getting a 6/7. Yet I can only get a 600 on SAT math. Something is wrong there. I'm really good at math, but I struggle with multiple choice and question phrasing. </p>
<p>True there's nothing to be done. I think performances on real exams an GPA should be taken into more account than SAT's.</p>