"Those ECs are weak...."- So what's good?

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Thank you!</p>

<p>wxmann, I'm afraid of people and probably the vast majority of people I consider friends are ones I know online. Social anxiety plays a role into what I choose to do - and besides, the majority of ECs here ridiculously clique-ish. You have to be popular to get into Student Council/Gov't, Junior/Senior Exec, etc., and I'm not willing to play those games.</p>

<p>Good luck.

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And thank you for the well wishes. :) I've gotten over it as well... I actually spent 5 hours yesterday night, staying up over 12 AM... reading this thread and freaking out. I feel a bit better now. You'll be fine, ricedotted. You're list of EC's is definitely more than sufficient to go to a good school.</p>

<p>Best of luck to you too.</p>

<p>Best of luck to you all.</p>

<p>"This thread is honestly inspiring suicidal tendencies in me. The whole of CC does. It makes me not want to apply to college, because I'm already convinced I won't be accepted, and then I might as well die."</p>

<p>Yeah...umm...don't take this site too seriously. Most of you are bright, intelligent people. No need to let some random strangers ruin your day.</p>

<p>lol, i soooo feeel that...</p>

<p>How valued is starting a chapter of the High School Young Democrats? Personally I think thats more work and recognition that being national/international-blablabla-thingy-champion. Even though I feel some college admissions officers might take bias to that or reject based on if i were accepted it would be looking like they were favoring me politically [All these officers would obviously have this in mind - their politcal agenda]</p>

<p>Now though I'm beginning to drop a few EC's that I have mediocore interest in, such as a Medical Club which I'm secretary of [could become vice president /co-pres next year but I just dont have time for it] and model un [vice pres] in favor of the young democrats, amnesty international, track, and student goverment. Do you guys think thats a good idea? I looked at the common ap. and thats about all that can fit there along with 2 other things I do, so I figured these other things wouldn't really help</p>

<p>Actually it's no comparison to "being national/international-blablabla-thingy-champion." you could easily just up and go make a chapter of anything you want, anywhere....i would like to see you up and go to a science or mathematics Olympiad...trust me...it's not happening...</p>

<p>It takes a lot more work to start a successful club than to win some arbritary competition</p>

<p>nvm but I get what your saying</p>

<p>woooo for being an Eagle Scout and playing three varsity sports my junior year</p>

<p>but I really need a job.....</p>

<p>and does anyone know if being editor of the school paper is worth the work?</p>

<p>RootBeerCaesar, why don't you go try to win Intel, win the NCFLs (National Catholic Forensics League competition), win a category speech nationals sponsored by the National Forensics League, or become a Presidential Scholar in the Arts? Bottom line: if you think that starting a club is anywhere close to more work than winning a national or international competition, you have absolutely NO idea what kind of competition awaits you in the college admissions process.</p>

<p>lol, people work ALL their life to get into those competitions....I could go open a club right now without any experience..it takes work but i could open it in a week..the other takes years and years of dedication and hard work</p>

<p>^ Yup. Agreed.</p>

<p>I love my school newspaper. I've posted so much about it on CC.
I want to be editor in chief in senior year. The upward trend would be beautiful (lowly dummy staff writer, copy editor, copy editor and columnist, Big Chief Yo). </p>

<p>Yum.</p>

<p>That was sparked by pistonfan's post btw.</p>

<p>RootBeerCeasar, you are neglecting the significance of awards. I ran into your chances thread, and I noticed that you lack awards and honors...these things make you stand out both academically and extracurricularly. You fail at these, and regardless of how many clubs you have founded, if under the awards section there is only a meager "national honor society", you're screwed... (the you being generic)</p>

<p>I hope I'm not the only one thinking this but I think a list like the one listed on the first page sounds..phony in some cases. Kids try too hard just for colleges. In certain cases, where that IS your passion, it's understandable. But if you're simply doing it because you CAN and you think it will look good, that's not a reason to do it. Extracurriculars are important because you're able to show a bit about yourself. But you don't need to be extraordinary. I think being genuine and passionate is all you need. You can pick on people for not doing enough but the things they do to improve that list are probably going to be lacking the interest they had in the other ECs they already had. Instead of saying "Your ECs suck." say "Why don't you ...make a band? work at a music store?" Give realistic (not "Win the Intel award") and constructive advice. Think before you help.</p>

<p>^ Hmmm.... I'm convinced that if you're really not passionate about something, and are just doing it for alternative reasons, you'll never be as good at that activity as someone who is passionate.</p>

<p>What do you guys think of these ecs? Can you tell my passions from them?</p>

<p>ECs:
-National History Day
-Mock Trial
-Internship at local Historical Society
-Art and Design Classes Year Round (School art classes don't fit in schedule)
-Volunteering at an Art Museum
-Freelance Jewlery Design (50% of profits go to charity)
-Layout Editor of School's Art and Literary Magazine
-Volunteering at Local Library
-Features Editor of School Newspaper
-Mu Alpha Theta
-JV Soccer (2 years)</p>

<p>Awards:
-National History Day: 3 First Place Regionals, 1 First Place States, 2 Third Place States
-NY Civil Liberties Union Essay Contest: First Place
-Mu Alpha Theta Log1 Contest: 2nd in Region
-various school awards</p>

<p>I make some of my own clothing and I'm thinking of selling it online and donating some of the profits. What do you think of this?</p>

<p>You show an interest in art and writing. You also show some interest in history. Lookin' good.</p>

<p>What if your school is new, so you started the clubs and teams yourself? My school didn't have Mock Trial, Amnesty International, or Forensics, so I started them. But I don't have any awards or honors from these clubs because I spent so much time in creating them and have had no guidance in exactly HOW to compete. For instance, in Mock Trial, we didn't even know how to word our questions until we had 2 years of experience under our belts. </p>

<p>In summation: I started several clubs (that I love), but don't have any awards as a result of making them and lack of experience. Will this hurt?</p>

<p>Don't worry about it. No ones gonna kill you for not having gotten awards esp. when they realize that none of these clubs would have even existed w/out your intiiative & commitment. Also, pple. often complain about having poor ECs & as awful as this sounds I would just make it up. But be careful what you make up & how you make it up. Don't say that you won a national or state award that yuou didn't win. they may request verification. however, colleges do not verify club attendance nor outside activites ( i.e. tutoring immigrants, volunterr work, etc.) none of these are verified. </p>

<p>imagine if ever college sat on the phone verifying whether or not you actually went to all the clubs you claim you did?</p>