Those who applied to AEM should know this

<p>I accidentally was able to find the regional division again. Here it is: </p>

<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools...s/cornell1.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.businessweek.com/bschools...s/cornell1.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Canada: 6
Mid Atlantic US: 6
Midwest US: 6
Northeast US: 66
South US: 4
Southwest US: 3
US Possessions and territory: 0
West US: 6</p>

<p>These are the number of people who actually enrolled. The number that got in would be give and take 15 more from northeast and about 2 more from each regional division. </p>

<p>Just think about it: AEM is the hardest sector of CALS to get into--it's like getting into an elite group lol...wish you the best.</p>

<p>What do you guys think of these numbers?</p>

<p>dont kid yourself. A&S and engineering are the two hardest to get into. the ag school definitely is not. it has very low SAT scores and low hs gpas. the state schools drag down cornell's ranking.</p>

<p>Many of those in AEM are sports recruits, which accounts for lower GPA, SAT scores. It would also make it harder for regular, non recruit applicants.</p>

<p>To iwantcolumbia: Wow why don't u bring ur reading skills back to the Columbia boards </p>

<p>"AEM is the hardest sector of CALS to get into"
Engineering is part of CALS? Good job big guy</p>

<p>Take ur bashing to another board because real Cornell people don't bash eachother. </p>

<p>Those stats r interesting. No suprise with the whole northeast domination tho.</p>

<p>"the state schools drag down cornell's ranking"</p>

<p>actually, all of the contract colleges rank among the top few in the entire world in their respective fields. CALS is ranked #2 in the world when it comes to its agricultural science programs. The ILR school is #1 in the US despite similar programs (grad) existing at MIT, Harvard, and Stanford. </p>

<p>". A&S and engineering are the two hardest to get into"</p>

<p>not quite. Competitive, yes, but certainly not the hardest to get into. Just the largest and most popular. </p>

<p>"Many of those in AEM are sports recruits,"</p>

<p>this is very true. For such a small program, the number of people in sports in AEM is extremely high. Just look at the roster of the hockey team, nearly all are in AEM.</p>

<p>THANK YOU figgy for putting ignorance in it's place : )</p>

<p>Yes figgy thanks! Actually I alread had a reply written but decided not to submit cause I don't want to be mean.</p>

<p>I did say that AEM is the hardest OF CALS. I feel sorry for Columbia U now..you know why.</p>

<p>lol it's wat I'm here for. Can't stand to c that stuff.</p>

<p>I'm a sophomore at Cornell--AEM is a joke. Everyone knows this once you actually come Cornell; I don't know how hard it is to actually gain admission to the program but in terms of rigor it doesn't even compare to A&S, nevermind engineering and sciences.</p>

<p>DUDE FIGGY, your post count is 1337!!!!!</p>

<p>ctown09 - why do you think Cornell puts all of their athletes here? :) It's because they were let in easier thanks to recruietment, but they don't want them to fail out of the university.</p>

<p>this settles the debate</p>

<p><a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000175.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000175.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>endowed divisions: 1310-1510
contract divisions: 1250-1430</p>

<p>that is around a 60-70 pt difference, stop overlooking the facts!</p>

<p>nah, even you admitted that the contract colleges look for very important qualifications that AREN'T based on SAT score and should therefore expect slighly lower average scores but equally qualified students for what they teach. Why are you still hung up on SAT scores, anyway? It's like the say-all-end-all of any college for you. Grow up for god's sake, high school is done with. </p>

<p>Besides, ACT differences are only 1 point on the low end and 2 points on the high end. Nearly identical. </p>

<p>Also, there's no way that the contract divisions "hurt" Cornell's rank. Not to repeat myself much, but they do rank higher than schools like CAS and Engineering when it comes to comparing comprable programs. Also, SAT scores are nearly insignificant when it comes to the US news rankings, same goes for selectivity. Poor excuse.</p>

<p>LOL i just knew bball/simba would jump into this argument. Still guys don't worry, no Cornell students are saying this. Just a highschooler and a northwestern kid. Cornell is top in almost everything. Who gives a crap if SATs are a little lower in the best arch college in the world, the best hotel college in the nation, ect...I mean seriously grow up. I can't insult a single Cornell school because they are simply remarkable in all of their respective fields of study.</p>

<p>Edit: When I tell people I am going to Cornell not a SINGLE person has asked which college. They are all top and that is that...it's CORNELL <em>SHOCK</em> <em>AWE</em> <em>WOW!</em>. It's not like "O ur going to UPENN...r u going to Wharton?". I mean it's kinda funny to think about. Not a single person has ever asked me which college.</p>

<p>Well said figgy!!! :)</p>

<p>as monydad would explain, cornell's biggest asset is its diversity</p>

<p>however, at the same token, these programs which DO PUT LESS EMPHASIS ON TEST SCORES result in cornell having lower test scores</p>

<p>you can't discount that, no one is saying that ILR and Hum EC and Ag are not great schools, b/c they are among the best in their traits</p>

<p>but to say that the admissions standards are the same among the schools is mere propaganda, and i doubt cornell admissions officers would disagree with this. They all emphasize different credentials. Therefore, if you want a standard liberal arts education, your SAT score will matter more than it would at Ag for instance. </p>

<p>this is purely b/c engineering and a/s require more "stat oriented" admissions whereas the other schools don't</p>

<p>take the facts for what they are</p>

<p>then why would the SAT stats you post "settle the debate?"</p>

<p>these programs should put less emphasis on test scores, obviously. They admit stronger student bodies by focusing more on interests and relevant EC's vs. a 2-hour test. As one admissions counselor told me in ILR - "the real story isn't who we admit and what their test scores were, but rather those whom we DONT admit and how high their scores were." </p>

<p>There are those in CAS who would not have gotten into ILR and vice versa.</p>

<p>How the heck did I start this argument. I was merely posting informative information (how redundant is that, ah well, :-))...Thanks figgy again...I'm tempted to jump into this argument but again I agree with you high school students comment...they're not my match...sorry!</p>

<p>wait figgy...u said no cornell student is saying this...ctown dissed aem...i think u need to attack him/her before i do...lol...</p>

<p>btw r u a cornell student already, if so what year?</p>

<p>Who knows where ctown goes. ctown could mean anything lol. If he does go to Cornell and says that then he is dillusional. No sane person who is happy with themselves would diss other colleges within Cornell. That's just a self-esteem issue...</p>

<p>I am an ILR GT so next year I'll be there, but I have been on these boards for a pretty long time. I love Cornell and I am so excited about going!</p>

<p>So I think simba is finally realizing what is being said!! (or he just worded his post wrong haha)</p>