Thoughts on Knox

<p>Until cooz replies, I can tell you what it was like when I was there in the early 80’s.</p>

<p>Galesburg is a small town with few employers. Although it’s the county seat and has a certain small town charm, it’s not a vibrant place and doesn’t have a lot to offer college-age students. Knox knows that, and tries to make up for what the town lacks, offering all kinds of social activities and arts and entertainment options, for example, that the town does not. I recently did a 1999-2009 crime analysis of Galesburg based on numbers from city-data.com. Although the national crime rate decreased over that period, Galesburg’s crime rate increased. The good news is that all the numbers for 1999-2009 still fall in the Average range, but the upward trend is disappointing. To be fair, every rural college town I looked at had a higher than average crime rate, probably in part because of the per capita basis used for calculating crime rates – if you have one theft in a town of 30,000 and one theft in a town of 60,000, the smaller town has double the crime rate as the larger. Galesburg has lost about 10% of its population in the past decade.</p>

<p>I wasn’t in a fraternity, but I had friends in every frat and I attended a lot of frat parties. They were generally open to the entire campus. I don’t drink, but every campus party that serves alcohol must also serve non-alcoholic drinks (real ones, like Coke and 7-Up, not just water). Each of the fraternities had houses where many of the members lived, but the sororities were scattered in the dorms with everyone else. The sororities were practically invisible to me. The fraternities didn’t dominate the social scene at all. They each had their own personalities, and attracted students accordingly.</p>

<p>When I was at Knox, the Oak Room was only open for lunch and for special occasions. The main dining room served a different lunch entree every day, while the Oak Room always had hamburgers, cheeseburgers, hot dogs, fries and onion rings, chili, deli sandwiches, and salad. The Oak Room’s hours went slightly longer, offering a late lunch option. Both dining rooms share a common kitchen between them, which is probably the main reason for having them so close together, but the way the campus is laid out there’s really nowhere else you could put another major dining room anyway. These days the main dining room has a food court type of lunch offering like that of most colleges instead of the one entree each day that we were offered. The Oak Room is also open for breakfast now, but I don’t know how that differs from the main dining room. The main difference between them was the people who ate there – we all tended to fall into a lunchtime routine, and if I wanted to talk to someone at lunch I always knew whether to look in the Oak Room or in the main dining room. I liked most of the the food while I was there.</p>

<p>@spdf</p>

<p>Thank you for the response. Very helpful. While my son and I didn’t visit Knox it sounds like the set up and relationship with the town is very similar to small liberal arts colleges in Michigan that we did visit such as Albion.</p>

<p>Thank you for clearing up my Knox Cafe/Oak Room misconception. Makes sense now. </p>

<p>Sound like the Greek system is welcoming. That’s good to hear. One of the things that attracted my son to Knox was the egalitarian values of the school. Makes sense that the fraternities would be the way you described. Thanks again!</p>

<p>I’m going to be a sophomore in college this fall, and I attended Knox for one trimester. I have to say that I made great friends there and I had a good time in all of my classes. I did get great financial aid, and Knox certainly has high percentages of students who get into medical school.
I do advise visiting the school before though. I ended up transferring out of Knox because the small campus and surrounding town was too small for me. I grew up in a little town, but I didn’t like the fact that we had to drive 45 minutes to Peoria in order to go eat at a bigger chain restaurant.
And it is true that Knox spends their endowment on people. Most of the students I know got at least 10k in aid. I really hope that those who do attend end up giving to the Knox fund, because it provides a major source of funding for the college.
I still talk to lots of my Knox friends and the majority of the people I met there were very happy with their choice to attend. In the end, I had to transfer because of Knox’s lack of funds. Their student health center isn’t the greatest because they simply don’t have the money to provide adequate services for their students. It does get the job done, but unfortunately for me I was told after being diagnosed with a medical issue that the hospital in Galesburg would not be able to provide adequate treatment for me, and they didn’t have the resources on campus to treat me either. I was put on medical leave. In the end, I decided not to return to Knox and opted for a larger university in a more urban setting so I could have access to the medical care that I needed.
I really love the concept behind Knox–the love of learning and the Honor Code, and the teachers I had were all great. I would advise visiting there though. If you’re looking for modern dorms and facilities, Knox doesn’t have them. They did renovate the gym recently, but most of the dorms and classrooms have a charming yet antique appeal to them.</p>

<p>AMTC you mentioned that your D is dyslexic. Our S also has learning issues and is interested in Knox. Were you able to find out anything about disability services there?</p>

<p>cmscribe - they’re terrific!!! Seriously, they are so helpful with their accommodations, I have no issue at all. It really is one of the reasons I was so happy she chose Knox. If you have any more specific questions you can PM me.</p>

<p>I am current student at Knox. Let me say first that this school is great for some people, my best friend from highschool attends with me and he loves it. </p>

<p>I have to say, however, to answer both your questions: Knox is incredibly “cliquey” and is incredibly isolated. I would go as far as to suggest the entire school is one big clique. You will find mostly uninformed activists, hipsters, and anti-establishment existentialists at this school. They are vaguely aware of the outside world but don’t have to be as the town of Galesburg, though rather large in population, has three main attractions: Knox College, the Prison (which is the reason most of the population lives there; waiting for someone to be released, and is secondarily the reason for the high level of poverty in the area), and the Amtrak station. Main street has a few stores and restaurants, namely the antique mall, the post office, and several Chinese diners.</p>

<p>I don’t mean to rail on the school, I personally don’t like it. I’m looking to transfer. Please look at other options before you settle on Knox. I would say that choosing Knox, unless you’d receive a lot a financial aid, is like renting a Civic for the price of an Audi; it’ll get you a degree but you might wonder the entire way if you got f*<em>k</em>d over by the dealer. They don’t put money toward buildings or housing, last year they didn’t have enough space for the incoming freshman so they had to shove them in upperclassmen dorms or the like. There are no transportation services. Either bring a car or make friends who are willing to drive you to Peoria. Expect to be underwhelmed by the academics. The classes tend to be far too easy and far too easy to cheat. The school has an “Honor Code” which basically means tests are not administered by a proctor and you’re not supposed to cheat. If you want an easy grade you might consider going here.</p>

<p>To sum it up: you’ll be paying 35-40k a year for a town with no culture, with little access if you wanted it, a school that is isolated and sheltered, with an education that is undermined by some poor faculty and rampant cheating.</p>

<p>As a further note; my brother is currently looking at colleges. He has similar interests to me and I have been going with him on college visits. I really wish I had seen more schools. If you like the idea of Knox, check out Butler, Northeastern, Co College, Marquette etc.</p>

<p>I’ve lived in Galesburg all my life, and I have to say that it’s not as bad as everyone makes it to be. There’s plenty of dining options, store, and other cities are nearby, like Peoria and the Quad Cities.</p>

<p>I completely disagree with what KeepItSafe has said about both Knox and Galesburg. I will be a junior at Knox this year, and I love everything about this school. I don’t believe that Knox is cliquey, I don’t think it’s even possible for Knox to be cliquey just because of how diverse the student population is. We have a very large international population, and students come from all over the country as well. Knox has a slight reputation as being a hipster school, and there are a decent number of those, as well as athletes, greeks, and every other stereotype you can think of. Just like any other school. But all these groups interact extremely well, which I don’t think happens at many other schools. Student athletes also perform in our student-run dance production, and art students run for Student Senate.
As for Galesburg itself, I feel that many Knox students miss the great things the town has to offer. However, if you simply give the town a chance, it will surprise you. There are far better restaurants than the Chinese diners mentioned, such as The Cellar, The Landmark, The Packinghouse, The Beanhive, just to name a few. While Galesburg is struggling financially, it does it’s best to present a strong front. It does admittedly have some issues, as many of the large employers have left in the past decade or so. Some areas of the town are unsafe, but the bad reputation the entire town receives is not deserved. There is a theater, The Orpheum, in town that brings in great shows, I was able to see the world famous Chanticleer mens choir there my freshman year absolutely free. The town is facing a hard time, but it’s certainly not giving up. Whoever this current student is clearly knows nothing about the town, and has made no effort to explore what it offers.
I’m also very offended by the statement that Knox is undermined by poor faculty. The professors you meet at Knox will change your life. They are some of the most dedicated, caring faculty you could possibly find, and each one honestly cares about your education. Knox keeps classes small so that you are not just an ID number on a class roster. Your professors know you, notice when you’re not in class, and will ask you about it the next day. I’ve had dinner at my professor’s houses simply to celebrate the end of the term. Even if you only have them for one class, those professors will still stop and say hi to you, a year after you took their class. The faculty is one of the best parts of Knox. As for the cheating, I’ve never witnessed cheating in any of my classes or had it be a problem at all.</p>

<p>I also want to clear up a couple questions, as it seems things have changed since the 80s when spdf attended. The Oak Room is now the location with an ever changing menu. Each weekday it serves lunch and dinner, with a theme. They do a local burger night, a ‘breakfast for dinner’ night, and “world street fair food” to name a few. Meanwhile, the cafeteria’s main entrees change each day, but there are also consistent staples, such as burgers on the grill and a salad bar.
Also, the fraternities are no longer allowed to serve alcohol at any of their parties. There are large “registered” parties held at the frat houses, at which no alcohol is allowed to be served or brought in. The fraternities are a fairly large presence on campus, as it’s where most parties happen, and a good percentage of the men on campus go greek, probably around 20%. However, they are all very different, and very inclusive. The sororities presence is growing, though not as large as the fraternities. They are not allowed to live together in a house, though many of them choose to live together in the dorms. Because of this, it’s harder for them to have social events. Both the sororities and fraternities are very welcoming to non-members. I am not greek, but many of my friends are, and there is no animosity. There is no pressure to be greek or not be greek, and we are all able to hang out regardless.</p>

<p>My daughter just joined the Knox community as a freshman. Knox’s generous financial aid combined with the high quality of the faculty we met wooed her away from 3 ivy-league acceptances. We decided that, for a person intent on graduate study, a BA from a good school, w/out debt, was the way to go. </p>

<p>I was worried about the midwest and the small, hard-hit town, but Knox has won me over. I am ready to be impressed. My girl loves the faculty so far. We are impressed by the friendliness, intelligence and dedication to learning that we met. </p>

<p>I think my daughter, a city girl, will also learn alot by not being in a city - the world is full of places like Galesburg - it ain’t all bright and shiny out there, especially now. I like that Knox is far from the east coast bubble. Time will tell.</p>

<p>Congrats to your daughter! Knox is a great school and was on my son’s short list, too. </p>

<p>I am going to cross-post this in a couple of other threads. Your insights are really good.</p>

<p>Hi there! :slight_smile: (Just wanted to put my little two cents in) Knox caught my eye with it’s creative writing program. I would think that it’s one of their most popular majors. Anyways, I was able to talk to a current senior there via e-mail, and she told me of her experience in her Intro to Fiction class (didn’t ask her when this was… I’ll make sure to ask soon), and it really seemed like her professor helped her out tremendously. The professor even invited his editor out to Galesburg to work with her, and she was able to get some valuable feedback on her work. </p>

<p>I haven’t been able to visit Knox and I don’t think I’ll be able to go. :frowning: I kind of wish Knox would help out with that. Even if the city is small, I’ve gotten the hint that it has it’s own charms behind it. Most of the small towns I visit seem to have it. I don’t think it matters to me if it’s isolated. Plus, Knox seems to offer alot of activities and clubs and organizations around to make up for it, and based on what I’ve read on the on-line and print sources, I’ve found plenty of groups that I’m really interested in. (Zine Club!, Pagan Student Alliance, The Catch, Spanish Club, Photography Club, Lo Nuestro, and a few more.)</p>

<p>I applying EA I this year, so I’m kind of mad scrambling around to make sure I don’t slack off. I’m also going for the Knox Writer’s Scholarship and that’s making me scramble even more around, trying to edit the manuscript I’m submitting. Gah! I’m just too nervous to think about anything else! Knox is my top choice. I feel so ifsy and weird and… scared! I actually have an interview for Knox tomorrow at 8pm here in Atlanta. I think I’m just about ready for it. I’m just hoping I don’t make a fool of myself. (Anyone want to wish me luck?)</p>

<p>Anyways, I wanted to say that for a student who hasn’t been to campus and has only been able to find information on the web and on print and through a student there, Knox has definitely impressed me. I’m just really hoping that Knox is as diverse as it seems, considering that I have a diverse set of interests.</p>

<p>Hi there all you parents, prospective students and the few of us currents students. I just wanted to take a moment to express a few of my opinions on Knox.</p>

<p>I’m in my fourth and final year here at Knox and I am finally beginning to understand what a great choice I made in attending Knox. Not only have I made the friends of a lifetime, but I am confident that I have received one of the best educations out there. The professors are amazing, deeply committed to teaching and dedicated to their students. The opportunities I’ve received while at Knox have been diverse; from affordable study abroad to multiple chances to complete undergraduate research in multiple fields. The sense of community of campus is unlike any other I have experienced–we take care of each other here. That means students, faculty, and professors. It’s not unusual for students to have their professors cell number; they grab coffee and professors will often invite students to their homes or ask them to babysit their children. I never wanted to be one student in a classroom of 250, but I didn’t realize till now how valuable my Knox education would be. </p>

<p>I would whole-heartily recommend Knox to students looking for a well rounded liberal arts education.</p>

<p>This sounds like an excellent school. Hope my son can take a trip out there to visit this summer.</p>