<p>hey i was just wondering where these schools would fall as far as being tier 1 or tier 2.... u of minnesota, u of wisconsin, u of iowa, duke, north carolina university, temple, johns hopkins, u of maryland, u of michigan and and ioaw state. thanks</p>
<p>All tier 2 with the exception of Duke </p>
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<p>Hopkins is not even near a “tier 2” school.</p>
<p>There is no bright line to divide these schools into “tiers”.
Tier 1/2/3 is an old US News college ranking concept that the magazine abandoned several years ago. As I recall, Tier 1 referred to the first 50 colleges in their ranking. If you’re interested in how US News now ranks these schools relative to one another, just go to their college site and look them up. Duke & Hopkins are in their top 20 “national universities”. Several of the others are in their 21-100 range. </p>
<p><a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities[/url]”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities</a></p>
<p>Depends on how broad you want to make your tiers. Personally, i’d put Duke and Hopkins and Michigan in a tier 2 position, and all the others in a tier 3 position.</p>
<p>All tier 2. Except temple and Iowa State.</p>
<p>On CC, posters have cited a half dozen or more university ranking systems that have documented their methodologies for anyone to see (US News, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Kiplinger, stateuniversity.com, Times Higher Education, QS, ARWU, the WSJ “feeder” ranking, NRC-95, the current NRC, 50topcolleges.com, Revealed Preference.) The only one that ever applied a “tiers” distinction is US News. According to US News, “tier 1” would have included Duke, Hopkins, Michigan, UNC-CH, and Wisconsin (because these all rank in their top 50). In the USNWR pecking order, Maryland, Minnesota, Iowa, and Iowa State are in the next set of 50 (the so-called “tier 2” as I recall). Temple is outside the top 100, but still ranked, which (again, as I recall) made it a US News “tier 3” school. </p>
<p>These distinctions are quite arbitrary. According to one explanation I’ve seen, “tier 1” simply referred to as many colleges as US News wanted to fit on the first page of their college-ranking spread.</p>
<p>Every single school on your list is a Tier 1 institution. Duke and Hopkins are the most prestigious of the bunch if that’s what you wanted to know.</p>
<p>Wait so you would put duke u of Michigan johns Hopkins and u of Pennsylvania in tier two?! That means that there are at least 50 schools better then then?! U of Pennsylvania is an ivy league college. Please don’t respond if u have no clue what your talking about!</p>
<p>This tier system is all personal and subjective. To me, HYPSM is tier 1, other top-25 schools are tier 2, and I don’t care about the rest. So Duke and JHU are tier 2.</p>
<p>About the US News rankings:
[Frequently</a> Asked Questions](<a href=“Web Page Under Construction”>Web Page Under Construction)</p>
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9. What are First and Second tiers, and why are the schools listed alphabetically in the Second Tier and not number ranked? U.S. News publishes the numbered rankings of approximately the top 75 percent of schools in each of the categories. The remaining schools are placed in the bottom, or Second Tier, based on their overall score in their category, and listed alphabetically. … Schools in Tier 2 are not numerically ranked since the data is not as complete and we want the numerical rankings to emphasize the top schools.<a href=“September%2012,%202011”>/quote</a></p>
<p>Tier 1 listings start here:
[College</a> Rankings 2012-Top Colleges & Universities for 2012 - US News Rankings and Reviews](<a href=“Web Page Under Construction”>Web Page Under Construction)
Tier 1 listings end here:
[College</a> Rankings 2012-Top Colleges & Universities for 2012 - US News Rankings and Reviews](<a href=“Web Page Under Construction”>Web Page Under Construction)</p>
<p>All the schools on the OP’s list fall within this so-called “Tier 1” range. All of them are assigned rank numbers, including Temple at #132.</p>
<p>If you are inquiring about the USNews’s rankings, all of the schools are in their <em>current listing</em> of Tier 1’s (their arbitrary demarcations seems to have changed over the years), though the Iowa schools are ranked outside the top 50 (#s 71 and 97) and Temple is #132. And as you can tell from the responses here, opinions differ significantly, so its really moot.</p>
<p>Read this <a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_search/second_tier.htm/[/url]”>http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_search/second_tier.htm/</a></p>
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<p>Two things:</p>
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<li>You didn’t mention Penn in your original post</li>
<li>Try working on your grammar</li>
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<p>I would like it if you guys would only give me the technical answer. I don’t need a million people giving their opinion on the schools I’m applying to. If you don’t have facts to back up what you’re saying don’t act like you know anything. And why would you comment on my grammar (yes I did start this sentence with “and” even though that’s grammatically incorrect).</p>
<p>Calm down.</p>
<p>I am calm, I’m just tired of people thinking its necessary to correct me on my grammar and spelling. When you comment you’re supposed to try and help the person by giving them advice. Not go around and act like the grammar police…</p>
<p>The point is that there is NO <em>technical answer</em>. Chill.</p>
<h2>“I would like it if you guys would only give me the technical answer. I don’t need a million people giving their opinion on the schools I’m applying to. If you don’t have facts to back up what you’re saying don’t act like you know anything.”</h2>
<p>You asked for opinions. You are just as capable of using Google to do your own research. Either stop being lazy or start being respectful of people who are taking the time to offer guidance and feedback.</p>
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<p>What do you mean by “the technical answer”? The reason you are getting many opinions is that there is no single answer. It depends on how you define the “tier” concept, your ranking factors, how you measure against those factors, and how you group the results. Even if you stick to the US News definitions, the answer changes from time to time.</p>
<p>Post #8 (goldenboy’s) is about as close as you’ll get to a straightforward, simple answer based on current US News ranking methods. US News now considers all the schools you listed as “tier 1” schools. If you want more fine-grained distinctions, you can look up the detailed rankings.</p>
<p>There is a technical answer and I did go on google after I posted this. The only publisher/ company to use the whole tier method was us news. I I thought that that method was still in use but I was mistaken. I was asking about an antiquated method of dividing colleges. There is no current answer because us new has stopped seperating schools in that method but in the past there was a defense answer.</p>