Times Higher Ed. Rankings

<p>Totally agree with what thekev said.</p>

<p>Here is the detailed rankings for Times:
<a href="http://www.epfl.ch/soc/etudes/pdf/world-rankingsUnis.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.epfl.ch/soc/etudes/pdf/world-rankingsUnis.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>My opinion on the flaws of this ranking:</p>

<p>Harvard only get 34 points for having 'large' proportions of internationals.
Berkeley only gets 13 points for having 'large' proportions of internationals.
Stanford only gets 22 points for having 'large' proportions of internationals.</p>

<p>London school of economics gets 179 points for having 'large' proportions of internationals! They only have 484.4 points total... take away their number of international students and they'll drop a good 20 ranks.</p>

<p>McGill gets 126 points for having 'large' proportions of internationals (Out of 364 total points). Take away this and they will drop about 35 ranks.</p>

<p>Ecole has 167 points for internationals, out of 289 total points (more than half!!)... take away this and they'll drop more than 60 ranks and off the first page.</p>

<p>Shouldn't schools be rewarded for giving students in their own country a better chance for education than internationals? Almost every top university in the states enrolls less than 10% internationals... it's crazy hard to get in as an international to an ivy if you are Canadian as opposed to American for example (I've been through this).</p>

<p>Basically with this ranking, I can open a private university by myself. I will enroll ONE international student and ONE international faculty (and hence I will have 100% international students/faculty). I will then be given more than 200 points in the 'international' category and be ranked a top 50 university worldwide! Even if the university has no accomplishments at all! Harrah!</p>

<p>^ That is true. Berkeley got a #2 ranking, even though by its public school contract nature it is required to accept domestic regional students. But it does seem unfair about the huge "importance" placed on international students. </p>

<p>Its really the domestic rankings that I am interested in. Private schools have some of the worst student access to professors around, and the whole private vs. public debate has got to stop, and we must focus on ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE. </p>

<p>The world is gonna end unless we use the Times Higher Domestic US Rankings. The world is very angry at us for all the Sins the US has committed against the world. Save your souls. =P</p>

<p>The US News has much more flaws with it than the TImes Higher London times ranking. I like the London TImes, if we stay ignorant to the world catching up to us, we will be taken over pretty soon. </p>

<p>Some of you seem like ignorance is the best way to be a world leader in the field of academia.</p>

<p>Either my eyes deceive me, or Georgetown is not on that list.</p>

<p>How would Alabama make the list and not Georgetown? Something is wrong with this picture.</p>

<p>lol! SUNY Stony Brook made the list. No offense to anyone who goes there, but my dad taught there and he said it should definitely not be number 50 in the nation...</p>

<p>Stony Brook number 50? Wow, I'm happily surprised since I'm considering going there.</p>

<p>I'm a little confused on exactly what these rankings are based on however...</p>

<p>Its funny how much of a fuss people make when a ranking comes out that their school is not on. I think all rankings should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, these apear to be just a credible as US News or any other for that matter. Just look at that dork that said "berkeley #2?", guess where that person goes to school? If you said the farm then you get 100 points.</p>

<p>lol...... now i noe how credible exactly times sigher edu is... most non-asians will not noe this, they ranked nus above ntu for engi!! (ntu n nus are well known uni in singapore)..i was shocked to see ntu lower than nus for engi....</p>

<p>A FAR more rational international ranking</p>

<p><a href="http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/top500(1-100).htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/top500(1-100).htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Well, who didn't know that Purdue is clearly better than Brown?</p>

<p>ranking is bs. basicly we all know what good schools are if u do ur research. no way berkely is better than princeton ha.
HYP no doubt xc3llent
berkely umich best pub schoo
wellesley best girlschool/good lac
whilliams/swarthmore best lac</p>

<p>northwestern, duke, OF COURSE stanford mit
need i name more? we all heard of these schools. no need to rank them. makes no difference if u graduate from stanford or duke, ur employer is not gonna be like... OOOOH STANFORD WAS RANKED FOURTH DUKE WAS RANKED FIFTH, WE CANT ACCEPT YOU cuz WE'RE ACCEPTING SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WENT TO STANFORD, SO GOOD LUCK TO U, POOR LITTLE FELLOW WHO WENT TO DUKE.</p>

<p>Well no one should make any decisions based on so called rankings. At best they are just a smalll piece to the puzzle. However, in the growing global economy it is worth noting this list and that schools perceived interntionally as "better" in terms of understanding world issues and diverse poulations may indeed have a leg up in certain areas as we look to this generation of students and the type of world they will function in over the next decades. Thanks for an intruguing perception on a non-UScentic viewpoint.</p>

<p>Outside of being a good undergrad liberal arts school, what exactly is Brown noted for? Purdue has far more depth in science and engineering than Brown and these are more important internationally than liberal arts. The list is top universities--not colleges.</p>