<p>^If this was FB I’d like this. But did you spend $0 literally? It must’ve been at least a double or triple digit figure? I think you meant that tuition is free. Same for India too. </p>
<p>Bubbles are you an American of Indian Origin or an Indian citizen resident there?</p>
<p>Anyway, you were the one who made the generalization in the 1st place. That was pretty lame. Stereotypes just don’t work. :)</p>
<p>Debarghya, she’s a Desi Born Confused American. </p>
<p>It’s appalling/funny to help but notice how naaive/misinformed/stupid she is.</p>
<p>Publics schools in this country provide free education for all till 12th grade.</p>
<p>This means - no tuition fee, all text books are provided (text books have to be returned at the end of the year), free transportation - every kid gets picked up/dropped off at a short distance from home (< 0.5 km). On top of this some kids get free lunch.</p>
<p>Note books, pencil/pens are not free. Some extra-curricular activities such as excursions are not free. For these, kids organize fund raising events such as car wash etc. Lot of high schooler in public HS become self sufficient by the time they are in 11th grade. It is not uncommon to find them working 10 to 20 hrs/week earning enough $ to pay for entertainment, clothing and petrol.</p>
<p>perception created by some rich kid living in NYC is not normal.</p>
<p>ani, I think we should refrain from making personal attacks.</p>
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<p>I didn’t know this. 
I had that rich kid perception too.</p>
<p>i guess we should be thankful for not having to pay for education 1st-12th grade.</p>
<p>@ann how much does college cost in india, because spending your child to school from 1st- 12th grade can be expensive in india</p>
<p>lol aniruddh, youre hilarious. </p>
<p>im not going to even argue your claims. frankly, because youre not worth my time and i do not really care :)</p>
<p>just saying, stop putting words in my mouth. </p>
<p>and btw, its normal to pay 30K+ for top prep schools and top boarding schools in nyc and all over the east coast. im not saying though that public school education is of any lesser value.
it all depends on the person really.</p>
<p>@ann and bluebox we do have private schools in america where we do have to pay for education 1st-12th grade, but most students attend public schools where the education free. Usually people who can afford the price of the private school will send their child there, but majority of the students attend public schools</p>
<p>From what I know, most kids in India go to private schools.</p>
<p>There are all kinds of private schools in India.</p>
<p>Substantial number of private schools in India get govt. subsidy. This makes these private schools affordable for middle class. Quality of education in these private schools is so-so, prepares them mainly for state board exams. State board exams are relatively easy. many of these private schools are run by non-profit Hindu and Christian organizations. Many end up taking after school tuition.</p>
<p>My understanding is that there is another set of private schools where most of Indian applicants to US univs (for undergrad study) come from. These are high funda schools like DPSRK and offer CBSE, ICS, IB etc. These are not subsidized by govt. These schools can be a) day school, b) residential or c) part residential (kids go home on weekends). Cost of attending these schools vary a lot from $5k/yr to $20k+/yr.</p>
<p>Doon schools are a different story.</p>
<p>Am I in the ball park?</p>
<p>most catholic high schools in ny go from 5-6k to 39k, probably.</p>
<p>boarding schools like exeter, andover, peddie, etc. are the same, except it costs like 10k more because of the room/boarding. </p>
<p>haha but im happy where i am. some of the public in ny are baaaaaaaaaaad. thats why my parents stopped sending all my brothers and sister to public schools as well</p>
<p>FP: Yea, I knew that you had public schools, and that it was possible that you got subsidized tuition, but I didn’t know all the details Tippu described.</p>
<p>Tippu: I don’t know of any private school that’s funded by the government. That way a school loses its autonomy, and no longer remains private.
Anyway, here some private schools are called public schools (an offshoot of the British system), so DPS is Delhi Public School, even though its private.
The State board exams are notoriously tough in certain subjects. Their language exams are easier than CBSE/ISC, but in math and science they’re probably tougher.</p>
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<p>20k/yr is very very high. I think the highest I’ve seen is 5k.
Other than that, that’s very accurate.</p>
<p>one of my super wealthy friends has a tutor that charges her $575 for an 1 1/2 hrs for SAT reading. i told her it wasn’t worth it, she wouldnt listen though</p>
<p>“aniruddh, to be fair, your characterization is not accurate - $40k/yr, $550/hr for tuition. Very few kids go to such schools and that kind of spoon feeding. These are, IMHO, underachievers.” </p>
<p>what are you talking about? please do your research before you make a statement like that.</p>
<p>Yeah you’re pretty much in the ballpark. </p>
<p>There are state govt run schools and colleges which are around $5 per year or something. </p>
<p>Then there’s icse/cbse, govt board schools which most people who can afford it, opt for. These are around Rs. 10k per year to Rs. 1lakh</p>
<p>Then there’s CBSE/ISC for 11th and 12th which is around 20k-1lakh, usually for students who prep for competitive exams. There is a small bunch of students from these schools that go abroad for further study but most students stay in India. </p>
<p>Then there’s IB. 3lakh per year to 12 lakhs per year. You know the drill here. </p>
<p>Then there’s IGCSE, Cambridge Board which offers O-Levels and A-Levels. Till the 10th grade. Around 1-2 L per year</p>
<p>Then there’s NIOS, for differently abled children. Cheaply priced too</p>
<p>The state board exams in Maharashtra are ridiculously simple.</p>
<p>IB 12 lakh / year? WHERE?</p>
<p>Ecole Mondiale School :)</p>
<p>So, I want to clarify a couple things Aniruddh, and a couple others said that really irritated me because, well, for one, a lot of the statements he claims I said, I actually never said- it may have came off that way, but it’s certainly not what I meant.</p>
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<li><p>I NEVER said Indians aren’t smart. They definitely are! Asians, in general, are known for their amazing work ethic and intelligence. SAT, by no means, defines intelligence. SAT scores can be raised by practice. However, what aggravated me was Aniruddh said he would so get a 4.0 if he went to school here. Some schools are very hard to do well at, and I know a IBO winner (he was top 10, I forget the exact rank), and he had B’s on his transcript. He made it sound as if all schools here are easy, compared to the Indian educational system. I then responded by saying if everything here is so easy, why do Indians only score slightly above average (1800-2100) on their SAT’s? B/B+ students at my school get 2100+ on their SATs. Aniruddh scored a 690 on the math section… I’m not trying to embarrass you here but if you guys do way higher level math than us, why’d you score so low? And I’m sorry, it’s hard to believe only 3 wrong answers got you a 690. My brother is in 7th grade and I made him take a couple sat math sections for practice, and he scored above 700+. It certainly doesn’t mean anything, but I just found that statement very rude and condescending of you.</p></li>
<li><p>“IIT-JEE is not a measure of intelligence and hard-work and that Indian schools are not competitive at all.” - I never said this directly. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth? I’m sure the exam is very hard, and one must be very competent in Math/Physics/Chem to do well. Well the IIT-JEE is an entrance exam and is the sole admissions factor for entrance into those colleges right? We had a similar exam here for these set of high schools in NYC. Sure, one could study their butt offs for that exam (go to prep classes, do the prep school work, ignore their school work for that work)… I’m sure those kids are hardworking, but they’re ignoring everything else for that sole exam. Catch my drift? And I never said Indian schools aren’t competitive. Haha, don’t worry, I know they are. (I have family in India)</p></li>
<li><p>"I’m just jealous because you americans get it easier. " - Some, maybe, but not all. Different educational systems. Different approaches.</p></li>
<li><p>“Yeah and one more point of difference- indians don’t spend $40k on school tuition and then opt for $550 per hour services to “help” them with their class assignments.” - I take offense at that statement. First of all, my school’s 33k and I had tutoring for one school assignment. It was a total of 3 hrs for $600. She didn’t do my assignment AT ALL. This is how it went: 1st tutoring session (1 hr)- showed her my assignment, we talked about the book, decided on what option I was going to do (the school assignment had options), and since it was a creative writing piece, she gave me some general tips about fictions and creative writing. I asked her if we could do an outline together, and she said no and that she just gave me more general advice; 2nd tutoring session (1 1/2 hrs)- I wrote the essay and showed it to her, and as she looked it over and found some mistakes, she told me to think of different ways and ideas on writing the piece, and I, MYSELF, had to write everything in front of her. Then she gave me some final tips for my already written piece; 3rd tutoring session (if you even want to call it that & it was half hr)- once I was done with the essay, I emailed it to her for her to look over some grammar mistakes, and such. She edited that part for me. But that’s only authority she had over MY paper. I truly learned a lot from her- she is an amazing writer (she writes articles for encyclopedias and won an emmy for her editing on something) and really opened my eyes to creative writing. The assignment really sparked my interest in literature and creative writing. I would never have someone do my assignment. It’s wrong, and moreover, I wouldn’t be learning anything. I wouldn’t pay 600 just for an “A.” </p></li>
<li><p>"Oh one more thing, IITians are super-successful and well read human beings</p></li>
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<p>An HYPSM student is far from being “guaranteed” success in life. The starting salary and standard of teaching is roughly the same at all top 50 colleges." - I’m sure most are. Then again, you can’t generalize! And I never said an HYPSM student was guaranteed success in life. It all depends on the person, and their approach toward their goals.</p>
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<li><p>“Oh and all “american” olympiad winners are actually chinese/indian so kindly shut the efff up.” - Ethnically, they are, and not “all,” hun. STOP GENERALIZING!! There are a lot of white kids. The IBO winner I mentioned earlier is white! I don’t get what you’re trying to get at when you say all are chinese/indian. First of all, that’s not true and second of all, it all depends on the person. I know you don’t mean this at all, but you make it sound as if a Black or Hispanic person can’t ever win the olympiads. But it’s okay 'cause I know you weren’t trying to convey that.</p></li>
<li><p>“aniruddh, to be fair, your characterization is not accurate - $40k/yr, $550/hr for tuition. Very few kids go to such schools and that kind of spoon feeding. These are, IMHO, underachievers.” - I take great offense to that. Please do your research before you say something like that. A lot of great schools are $40k and have many aspiring, intelligent, hardworking kids. A lot of you have tutors for different subject areas, right? So do a lot of these kids at these expensive prep schools. They spend money $575 per 1 1/2 hrs for tutoring because they have the money and they need it. </p></li>
<li><p>“Anyway, you were the one who made the generalization in the 1st place. That was pretty lame. Stereotypes just don’t work.” - Sorry! I tend to do that when I’m mad. I didn’t mean it at all though. Indians are GREAT and are very intelligent, and speaking on a broader scale, most (probably) Indian students are much more hardworking than the average American student. But that’s not to say that the cream of the crop of American students here aren’t just as smart, if not smarter! 
And vice versa. Again, it all depends on the person. </p></li>
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<p>Haha, wow, so this is DEFINITELY, by far, the longest post I’ve ever written. Anyway, I’m done with my harangue. I just want to clarify all the misconceptions across the thread. I apologize if I came off as rude to any of you Indians. You guys are very smart and hardworking, and I apologize, once again, if it seemed like I underestimated your education system. </p>
<p>This is most certainly my last post on this thread. I want to thank everyone on the thread for all the help/advice you guys have offered throughout the months. I really appreciated it!</p>
<p>I wish all of you the best luck in your college admissions/college journey, and life, in general. Yes, I’m talking to everybody- aniruddh, bluebox, tippu, harisheena, pixie, ans, fp, and many others that just aren’t coming to mind right now ( Sorry!!) You guys all are obviously hardworking, and smart, and clearly only want the best for yourselves. GOOD LUCK & have a nice lifeeeeee. :)</p>
<p>Toodles! <3</p>
<p>Sincerely, </p>
<p>JBubbles123</p>
<p>whether you go to a private school or public school its what you make of your education.</p>
<p>that was a waste of some precious time bubbles …just say f u the c k off thats the end instead of writing that much!!!AND ANIRUDDHC , THAT WAS SOME FUN READING</p>