<p>what if you've already appealed and were still not offered enough to plausibly attend? </p>
<p>are there any scholarships inside cmu once a student?</p>
<p>Yes, I'd like to know that too.</p>
<p>I just got a letter today saying they can't offer me any more aid than what they already have ($8k). I suppose that's final? No point in arguing further?</p>
<p>I wish I knew. If we are in possession of their final offer, I think my son will have to decline. Perhaps some person from the wait list who has more money to spend or who got better financial aid will have his spot (I am between "sob" and "grr"!)</p>
<p>Frankly, I am beginning to regret that I even allowed him to apply in the first place. Bad parental move on my part.</p>
<p>Probably.
But the real question is how did you get any FA, if you live in Belgium? Are you a US citizen?</p>
<p>It seems like at CMU, the purpose of need-based aid is being defeated. The whole point is to allow you to go to CMU, regardless of your financial situation. Considering that, it's ridiculous how many people have said that because CMU isn't offering enough money, they can't attend. The same thing happened to me at Caltech: they offered me no aid at all! Caltech is supposedly 100%-need-met, too.</p>
<p>Is this just a matter of CMU not having enough money to be able to offer everyone aid?</p>
<p>After thinking about it for a bit, I don't think it can hurt to argue. What is there to lose? I doubt they'd retract their current aid offer. If you're an outstanding student, it gives you some pull. The worst thing that can happen is that they say no, it's totally impossible to give more aid, sorry. Then, all you can do is shop around for cheap loans, or go somewhere else. Personally, I'm going to CMU. They haven't offered enough aid, but my parents say they won't let money affect my choice of college, and we'll manage it somehow. Best of luck.</p>
<p>i think a main reason why even after aid and meeting efc's, college is so unaffordable, is that they don't look at cash flow...only gross income and assets. cost of living isn't factored in...neither are loans, children who will be going to college adjacent to the first child (ie siblings 4 years apart), etc etc etc. simply..."how much do you make" and "how much do you have saved" --> how much you can afford. this is something the cmu financial aid rep made very clear during his presentation...:(</p>
<p>Sorry for the delay!</p>
<p>In terms of your original question, I would recommend verifying the dates/your package with the Office of Admission if you still have some questions regarding which is the most current addition to your package.</p>
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<li><p>If granted an Institutional scholarship it is renewable for all 4 years or 5 in the case of architecture.</p></li>
<li><p>I believe the gpa needed to maintain a 2.0 gpa.</p></li>
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<p>hope this helps!</p>
<p>itstoomuch: I'm a US citizen, yes.</p>
<p>karthikkito: They admit that? That's just insane - it would be like saying that they only consider GPA and SAT scores in admissions decisions. I mean, when it comes down to it, isn't a financial aid decision an admissions decision of sorts, if finances affect a student's ability to attend? "Yes, you're good enough academically, but you're poor, so...no." I think that methodology really ought to be re-examined.</p>
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<p>I think this is always true, but especially for the kids on the waitlist. Colleges are businesses and it can't be an accident that they meet desired criteria year after year for the amount of aid dispersed.</p>
<p>I also was a little surprised to find how hard colleges try to assemble a well rounded class. Not a class composed of well rounded students, but a well rounded collective (sort of like the Borg, for old Star Trek fans!)</p>
<p>Anyway, it's the system that is in place, so I guess you can either play or take your marbles home.</p>
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karthikkito: They admit that? That's just insane - it would be like saying that they only consider GPA and SAT scores in admissions decisions. I mean, when it comes down to it, isn't a financial aid decision an admissions decision of sorts, if finances affect a student's ability to attend? "Yes, you're good enough academically, but you're poor, so...no." I think that methodology really ought to be re-examined.
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<p>it is insane, but it was clearly spelled out during the presentation. cmu uses fafsa as rough guides for their aid packages, and since fafsa doesnt ask about loans, debts, and such...</p>
<p>:(</p>
<p>Groan - as my parents and I were filling out CMU's finaid form, I had this vague feeling that we weren't supplying enough information. My other colleges (that wanted the CSS PROFILE as well as the FAFSA) were getting a lot more info on stuff like investments, trust funds, expenses, etc. Now I know why. Ah well - time to take out a bunch of loans and frugalize! (if that's even a word)</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, karthikkito, are you coming to CMU?</p>
<p>My dad talked with a financial aid officer who said there are not very many opportunities to get aid once you're there if you dont' already have it. I would suggest seeing if there are any outside sources that give fin aid once you're a sophomore, because they do exist.</p>
<p>And <em>I'm</em> going to CMU.</p>
<p>right now im still torn 50/50 between uc san diego and cmu. since finaid at both school aren't budging, the costs are equal [even factoring in uc's out of state tuition]. unless something major happens by sunday, it'll [seriously] be a coin toss.</p>
<p>KrazyKow </p>
<p>I am glad that your father had an opportunity to speak with a financial aid officer (hopefully from Carnegie Mellon) but I just wanted to clarify something. In terms of academic scholarship - those are given out in the admission letters and as a result are not available to students who are not initially awarded these scholarships/grants. That being said, your financial aid situation is reevaluated each year and if your family's financial need changes dramatically your package will be reconsidered. It is definitely a good idea to look at outside sources of funding as well. </p>
<p>Please call our office if you have any additional questions.</p>
<p>Karthikkito,</p>
<p>If there is anything we can help you with (e.g. connect you with a student on campus, talk to you about your specific program of interest) please don't hesitate to call our office and a counselor will be happy to help you. Good luck with your decision!</p>
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<p>Although there are "not very many", what IS available?</p>
<p>There are some scholarships/grants offered through individual colleges/programs, reevaluation of your individual financial need situation, work study opportunities, paid research positions and outside scholarship resources.</p>
<p>Where might I find a listing of scholarships/grants offered through individual colleges/programs? I know this seems desperate at this late date, but the finances are a deal breaker for us.</p>
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<p>If there is anything we can help you with (e.g. connect you with a student on campus, talk to you about your specific program of interest) please don't hesitate to call our office and a counselor will be happy to help you. Good luck with your decision!
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<p>Thanks..I'll definetely look into it!</p>