Too late for a big law job?

<p>I apologize for the long read. My wife is a 3L at a mid-30s ranked public law school. She didn't get an internship in the summer after her 1L year so she was unable to get a big law internship as a 2L. She had a great internship in Germany (she can function in German professionally) this summer and is doing a very solid externship right now with a federal agency. </p>

<p>She didn't initially think she was big law caliber because her GPA is 3.45 (top 33% class rank), but she wrote for a journal and is fluent (nearly native) in both Spanish and German. Other than that, her undergrad GPA was 4.0 and she had some great international experience as an undergrad.</p>

<p>She got an interview with a big law firm (thousands applied, 9 made it to the final round of interviews, she is the backup for the 1 person who was selected). </p>

<p>Questions:</p>

<p>1) Are there still going to be big law firms hiring 3Ls, or are they mostly done by now?</p>

<p>2) Should she keep cold-calling firms outside of the local area? She's applied to dozens of jobs that weren't posted by her career services office, with no response.</p>

<p>3) Does she have much of a shot with jobs that are outside her school's area of influence? She's heard that it's hard to get a job in another part of the country if you're from a lower ranked school.</p>

<p>4) Do you guys have any other advice to offer her? We would really appreciate that.</p>

<p>One more question: I feel like smaller firms might not value her language skills and international experience as much as the big firms. Is this going to be a problem? Do you think she’s going to have a hard time at the middle market firms too?</p>

<p>My advice to her would have been to not go to law school in the first place.</p>

<p>There is a vast over-supply of lawyers.</p>

<p>Even if she does happen to get a job in a big law firm, they will work her 7 days a week, 70 hours a week. Further, it would be likely that within two years, she will be terminated, and would have to beg and plead to get a job in a small law firm (and still work 70 hours a week)</p>

<p>Given her German and Spanish language skills, I think she should apply for a non-law job at the big corporations and banks, as if she were an MBA (especially the ones who do business with Germany).</p>

<p>Alrighty then.</p>

<p>Is she applying for jobs in the same geographic area as her law school?
Has she applied for jobs in the same geographic area as her college?</p>

<p>Language fluency other than English is not a key skill for most big law firm jobs in the US. It is valuable for attorneys who are willing to relocate outside of the country…have you considered that option?</p>

<p>For a variety of reasons, many big law firms (commonly referred to as “Biglaw”) are just not hiring 3Ls at all this year. I would not count on your wife’s backup position amounting to much for her. In fact, much of the 2L hiring is already well in progress at this point. Most on campus interviewing is completed, and selected students are either going through their second round interviews or choosing among offers at this point. </p>

<p>For the many law students who were not successful in obtaining jobs through the ordinary channels (on campus recruiting, resume drops, etc.), you have to be creative. I don’t know what law school your wife attends or what her pre-law school work experience looks like, but tapping into alumni databases (often maintained by a law school’s career office) and networking with former colleagues and employers could be helpful. </p>

<p>Today, many resumes that are submitted cold or in response to job postings will disappear into the ethers. Law firms and companies today are so deluged with resumes sent electronically that they often look at resumes until they find a few candidates who meet the criteria for the jobs and disregard the rest of the pile. </p>

<p>I know it is gut wrenching to spend a lot of time on sending out dozens, if not, hundreds, of resumes, but it only takes one “yes” to begin a career. </p>

<p>So, here is my best advice:</p>

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<li><p>Make sure that your wife’s resumes and cover letters are perfect, and that each is customized to meet the needs of the employer to which it is submitted. Take a look at each potential employer’s website and make sure that the cover letter and resume screams “fit”. It takes a lot of work to do this, but eventually, someone will notice the extra effort. </p></li>
<li><p>Think outside of the box. Consider job markets across the country and even abroad. Consider offering to work on a temp-to-perm basis, so that employers can see how fantastic you are before making a job offer. (Of course, your wife will have to do some killer work to make this play work out well.) Consider jobs that are pseudo-legal, like compliance and internal investigations and ethics jobs. These can also provide some outstanding experience that may lead in directions you can’t yet anticipate. </p></li>
<li><p>Attend ABA meetings, CLE courses and local bar association gatherings. Almost all have programs specifically to include law students. You never know who you are going to meet, and sometimes a connection made today will lead to a job tomorrow. </p></li>
<li><p>Get a school-year internship and build up that resume. Make sure to network and meet as many people as possible through the internship. </p></li>
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<p>Most of all, please tell your wife to keep her chin up. I’m sorry floridadad, but telling someone who is already in her third year of law school that she shouldn’t have gone and then poo-pooing all over her prospects and the profession is just not helpful right now. It is important to be proactive, to remain positive and to be confident that it will all work out in the end. Potential employers can smell desperation and a lack of confidence a mile away. </p>

<p>Best of luck to you and your wife.</p>

<p>@floridadad55, there was a time when investment banks took a decent amount of people with law degrees. UBS especially took a fair number of people.
Not only have those days long past, but even then, it was only people from absolutely top schools.</p>

<p>Great post, sallyawp, thanks for that.</p>