Top 20 schools

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<p>It's hundreds of thousands of kids' dream to go to a top 20 university/college. Yet there are only 20 of them allowing only a handful to get in..... or are there more?</p>

<p>Just off the top of my head, these (in no particular order, numbering is just for easy counting) are "top 20" schools that I've heard people say, or read by myself. These are all general ranking, not in any specific field.</p>

<p>1.harvard
2.yale
3.stanford
4.princeton
5.oxford
6.cambridge
7.MIT
8.caltech
9.berkeley
10.UCLA
11.notre dame
12.vanderbilt
13.cornell
14.Upenn
15.dartmouth
16.Uchicago
17.UC SD
18.peking U
19.Rice U
20.Williams college
21.Imperial college London
22.McGill
23.Columbia
24.U tokyo
25.U HongKong
26.Carnegie Mellon U
27.Australian national U
28.John Hopkins
29.Duke
30.U college london</p>

<p>.... and that's just off the top of my head. There seems to be as many "top 20s" as there are students applying for them...</p>

<p>oh yeah, and i have a question: I always read people's chance threads, and often I come across two that are quite similar, with one who is applying to HYPS type schools, and the other to rice, CMU UCs and other... second rate schools (no offense). However, the response for the HYPS is always "you have a really good chance, your competitive" etc. but the ones for the 2nd rate are always like "your scores and GPAs are too low, and you don't have enough ECs, it's a big reach". Why is that?</p>

<p>I find these really funny.</p>

<p>Oh yeah, and I can't find a proper place to post this so it's here.</p>

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<p>Most students in the US don't apply to international schoosl, so I don't know if they should be on the list.</p>

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<p>where's the school of hard knocks?</p>

<p>And what about Def Jam University. C'mon now. Step UP!!!!!!!!!!</p>

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<p>That can't be an easy username to type.</p>

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<p>mine? actually it's very easy.... u ername. the § on my cpu is just alt 789</p>

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<p>what if you want to log in on a lap top or something..</p>

<p>the reponses you've read about for 'first rate' and 'second rate' schools are just some of them..i actually read more "hypsmc is a reach for (most) everyone."</p>

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<p>Oh man.</p>

<p>Good luck getting into Todai (Tokyo University.)</p>

<p>No really. GOOD LUCK.</p>

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<p>huh?? /<em>randomtext</em>/</p>

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<p>hard to get into that school im guessing</p>

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<p>try peking U. it's like 1/3,000,000 if i remember correctly.</p>

<p>which is why when i first saw harvard/yale rates of ~9-10% i was like that's so high... why is everyone complaining it's so low?</p>

<p>and fellowCC, yes they say that, but they also say you have a good chance unlike the ones for CMU or Rice or vanderbilt they are like go apply somewhere else where you have a chance</p>