<p>I colored my text grey but how come it turns out green, not invisible?</p>
<p>Ah damn, due to the limitations on this forum, I can’t seem to make a legit invisible message. At best I can write in seemingly invisible text</p>
<p>dammit, how do you do color? i give up</p>
<p>Anyone who can’t figure out colored text has absolutely no shot at medical school admissions. ;)</p>
<p>Lol this is funny</p>
<p>Y es</p>
<p>Apparently I have no chance at medical school admissions BodaciousG</p>
<p>I take offense to most of the stuff in there. I’m pre-med, many of my friends are pre-med, we get the highest scores on the tests because we help each other. We wouldn’t be in this without intellectual curiosity, the opposite just seems true a lot of the time because of all the stupid pre-req’s we have to take. Personally I’ve participated in a lot of research in my favorite field (neuroscience) and have let my reqs take a back seat so that I could take interesting classes in psychology, history, international relations, neuroscience…the list goes on. I know the stereotype of the hyper-competitive lame pre-med student who will do anything for a grade but I just don’t know where it comes from.</p>
<p>Wow, that’s a ridiculous article…what about all the business people who wanted money and took the easy way out? Why not beat on them…you know…the people who aren’t making much of a difference in others’ lives?</p>
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You don’t think people in business make a difference in others’ lives??? There is nothing righteous about being a doctor. Believe it or not, you can make a difference in pretty much any job. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Yeah, it’s quite egotistical to think that only doctors provide a useful service in life. I mean, I like to make fun of business majors as much as the next guy, but the truth is, they’re the smart ones. They do a lot less work during undergrad, generally get a job after graduation, have a lot of potential for advancement, and will have regular hours, little debt relatively speaking, and will begin earning several years before prospective docs, all without most of the stress.</p>
<p>To DorkAlert: if you and your friends don’t fit the pre-med mold, that’s great. We need more pre-meds like that, because then I wouldn’t be ashamed to associate myself with premeds! But the truth is, the majority of premeds (and other preprofessionals, like pre-law and others) do behave like the typical, cutthroat, grade-grubbing, poorly-liked stereotype.</p>
<p>Just to follow up on what DorkAlert was saying, the pre-meds at my school (myself included) do well because we all know that we’re in the same boat, so we help each other out at every possible chance. It’s been a good system for us so far.</p>
<p>They shouldve added another reason, Pre-meds usually get the highest grades.</p>
<p>BodaciousG: I think you’re misinterpreting what I was saying. It’s not that business people don’t make a difference in others’ lives, it’s just that it’s not often a positive difference. And yes, many doctors treat their patients like ATM’s. Yes, many doctors will have underhanded dealings with companies. Yes, many doctors truly don’t give a crap about who they’re treating. But, at the end of the day, you cannot possibly deny that doctors have a more positive impact on society than business people…Plus, if you truly mean what you’re saying, I’d like to know why you’re pursuing an MD (assuming you are). If you enjoy science, you could be a PhD (perhaps you are and this would explain your relative bias against doctors). If you want money, you could be one of the businessmen you seem to respect so dearly. Somehow, I can’t understand your motivations and I’d appreciate it if you would clarify/elaborate. I can only sincerely hope you’re not being hypocritical (because I find that an incredibly unappealing trait).</p>
<p>This is a ridiculous post.</p>
<p>Sure, you need researchers to develop the basic science for a drug and a doctor to diagnose the illness and prescribe the drug, but you need the business community to acquire and distribute and utilize the capital to develop it. Unless you happen to have $800 million dollars per drug that you’d like to use, I think it’s pretty clear that Pfizer’s and Merck’s CEOs make a bigger difference – for better or for worse – in people’s lives than a doctor. Same with insurance companies – they can either do a world of good or a world of harm, far more than any single doctor usually does.</p>
<p>And why on earth would it be hypocritical? Most running backs know that they’re less important to a football team than the quarterback is – and yet a good running back doesn’t try to become a QB. He plays his role on the team.</p>
<p>Similarly, we’re joining a part of a broad medical team – from politicians and Presidents to CEOs to researchers to primary care doctors to specialists. Just because one position has an obviously greater social impact doesn’t mean we’re hypocrites for pursuing another one.</p>
<p>Sometimes running backs like running and blocking and breaking tackles. Is a 2-yard run as important as throwing a touchdown pass? No – but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t do it.</p>
<p>BDM: This is why I said a businessman’s impact on society is not often a good one. In fact, I used no absolutes in my statements because I recognize exactly what you’re saying: there are never any definites in such observations. As I stated, however, doctors overall have a more positive impact on society than businessmen. You may deny it all you like, it’s a rather subjective assesment anyway. Judging from your vehement opposition to my comments, I have to assume that you share some of the delusions I detest in the other poster’s comments. To clarify, however, because your inflammatory reproach necessitates it, this is the poster’s statement I had in mind when I commented that she would be hypocritical were she pursuing an MD:</p>
<p>“There is nothing righteous about being a doctor.”</p>
<p>I will make this very clear so even someone as seemingly ignorant as you can understand it: One who has no respect for him/herself deserves none from others.</p>
<p>There’s nothing automatically righteous about being a doctor. I would think that’s fairly obviously true. There are good and bad doctors, just like there are good and bad businessmen.</p>
<p>I agree completely…but, that’s not what the original statement implied. There was no “automatically” in the original statement. I think we should allow the original poster of those comments to come and clarify for herself. There may be some reason behind what was said that has been overlooked.</p>
<p>nj_azn, using fancier speech doesn’t strengthen your argument (not trying to offend you, just telling you how it comes off).</p>
<p>Essentially, you’re saying that being a doctor automatically makes one better than a businessman, based on some logic you’ve created. You’re saying, in other words, that everybody who becomes a doctor is inherently on a higher plain than everybody who goes into business. That’s a very elitist viewpoint and I’m surprised that you don’t see why people are disagreeing with you.</p>
<p>I have immense respect for doctors, probably too much. But I don’t want to go into medicine because I think it will put me on a higher pedestal than my friends and classmates going into business. It would just be plain egotistical. Not everybody is interested in science and medicine, not everybody is capable of becoming a doctor, not everybody is a pre-med. Similar to what BDM said, we are all part of a much larger team, and it doesn’t have to be limited to medicine. Businessmen, politicians, scientists, doctors, bankers, analysts, aides, secretaries, construction workers, pilots, and yes, even (sometimes unfortunately), lawyers, make the world go 'round.</p>
<p>You seem like the type of person that looks down on most people that are not in medicine for the sole reason that you believe that a career in medicine makes one inherently more important. When you see a janitor, do you think you are better than him? Obviously, a doc’s job is more significant than a janitor’s, and yet, they’re both part of the vital team that makes the world spin.</p>
<p>I’m interested in medicine because I think it will be personally satisfying to me, and because at the end of my life, I’ll be able to say I made a difference (hopefully). I’m not interested in it so that I can think about how I’m a more important person than my business major friends and classmates.</p>
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<p>nj<em>azn</em>premed, if you had studied basic economics, you would know that entrepreneurship is integral to a society’s economic growth, which often leads to positive results.</p>