<p>'MONEY' programs?
Business, Economics</p>
<p>I want to go into the money, and by that i mean i want a job that has to do with money that makes a lot of money. (business? does econ make a lot?)</p>
<p>I know Wharton is #1 but i have no chance there...</p>
<p>Could any of you give me more realistic suggestions for undergraduate 'money' programs?</p>
<p>Just for reference, BC level is match for me. My GC says Vandy would almost definetly take me ED.</p>
<p>Oh btw does anyone happen to know the best undergrad business program list from US News? They only show the top 5. Thanks!</p>
<p>TOP 50 ACCORDING TO THE LATEST USNWR</p>
<ol>
<li> University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.8 </li>
<li> Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan) 4.6 </li>
<li> University of California–Berkeley (Haas) 4.5 </li>
<li> University of Michigan–Ann Arbor 4.5 </li>
<li> New York University (Stern) 4.3 </li>
<li> University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) 4.3 </li>
<li> University of Texas–Austin (McCombs) 4.3 </li>
<li> Carnegie Mellon University 4.2 </li>
<li> Univ. of Southern California (Marshall) 4.1 </li>
<li> University of Virginia (McIntire) 4.1 </li>
<li>Cornell University 4.0 </li>
<li>Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley) 4.0 </li>
<li>Emory University (Goizueta) 3.9 </li>
<li>University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign 3.9 </li>
<li>University of Minnesota–Twin Cities (Carlson) 3.9 </li>
<li>University of Wisconsin–Madison 3.9 </li>
<li>Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) 3.9 </li>
<li>Ohio State University–Columbus (Fisher) 3.8 </li>
<li>Pennsylvania State University–University Park (Smeal) 3.8 </li>
<li>Purdue University–West Lafayette (Krannert) 3.8 </li>
<li>University of Arizona (Eller) 3.8 </li>
<li>University of Maryland–College Park (Smith) 3.8 </li>
<li>Arizona State University (Carey) 3.7 </li>
<li>Babson College 3.7 </li>
<li>Georgetown University (McDonough) 3.7 </li>
<li>Michigan State University (Broad) 3.7 </li>
<li>University of Notre Dame 3.7 </li>
<li>University of Washington 3.7 </li>
<li>Boston College (Carroll) 3.6 </li>
<li>Case Western Reserve University (Weatherhead) 3.6 </li>
<li>Texas A&M University–College Station (Mays) 3.6 </li>
<li>University of Florida (Warrington) 3.6 </li>
<li>University of Georgia (Terry) 3.6 </li>
<li>Wake Forest University (Calloway) 3.6 </li>
<li>Georgia Institute of Technology * 3.5 </li>
<li>University of Iowa (Tippie) 3.5 </li>
<li>Boston University 3.4 </li>
<li>Brigham Young University–Provo (Marriott) 3.4 </li>
<li>Southern Methodist University (Cox) 3.4 </li>
<li>University of Colorado–Boulder 3.4 </li>
<li>Virginia Tech (Pamplin) 3.4 </li>
<li>Bentley College 3.3 </li>
<li>Florida State University 3.3 </li>
<li>George Washington University 3.3 </li>
<li>Georgia State University (Robinson) 3.3 </li>
<li>Syracuse University (Whitman) 3.3 </li>
<li>University of Arkansas (Walton) 3.3 </li>
<li>University of Pittsburgh 3.3 </li>
<li>Univ. of South Carolina–Columbia (Moore) 3.3 </li>
<li>University of Tennessee 3.3 </li>
</ol>
<p>TOP 50 ACCORDING TO THE LATEST BUSINESS WEEK</p>
<ol>
<li> University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)</li>
<li> University of Virginia (McIntire</li>
<li> University of California-Berkeley (Haas)</li>
<li> Emory University (Goizueta)</li>
<li> University of Michigan-Ann Arbor (Ann Arbor)</li>
<li> Massachusetts Institute of Technology</li>
<li> University of Notre Dame (Mendoza)</li>
<li> Brigham Young University (Marriott)</li>
<li> New York University (Stern)</li>
<li>Cornell University</li>
<li>Georgetown University (McDonough)</li>
<li>Villanova University </li>
<li>University of Texas-Austin (McCombs)</li>
<li>Boston College (Carroll)</li>
<li>University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan Flagler)</li>
<li>Washington University-St Louis (Olin)</li>
<li>Wake Forest University (Calloway)</li>
<li>Indiana University-Bloomington (Kelley)</li>
<li>University of Southern California (Marshall)</li>
<li>Lehigh University</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper)</li>
<li>University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign</li>
<li>University of Richmond (Robins)</li>
<li>Southern Methodist University (Cox)</li>
<li>University of Washington</li>
<li>Northeastern University</li>
<li>Santa Clara University</li>
<li>University of Wisconsin-Madison</li>
<li>College of William and Mary (Mason)</li>
<li>University of Maryland-College Park (Smith)</li>
<li>Bentley College</li>
<li>Rutgers University</li>
<li>Babson College</li>
<li>Fordham University</li>
<li>Miami University of Ohio (Farmer)</li>
<li>Pennsylvania State University (Smeal)</li>
<li>Boston University</li>
<li>Baylor University (Hankamer)</li>
<li>Texas Christian University (Neeley)</li>
<li>Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (Lally)</li>
<li>Ohio State University (Fisher)</li>
<li>University of Minnesota (Carlson)</li>
<li>University of Florida (Warrington)</li>
<li>Georgia Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Clemson University</li>
<li>University of San Diego</li>
<li>University of Miami</li>
<li>Michigan State University (Broad)</li>
<li>Marquette University</li>
<li>Texas A&M University (Mays)</li>
</ol>
<p>People on this board tend to put too much emphasis on rankings. :S</p>
<p>I agree. Rankings are obviously important, but is there such a distinction between say #8 and #23? Probably not. Rankings should be looked at, but overall fit is far more important.</p>
<p>If you're all about the money, it sounds like you should consider NYU so you'll be in New York close to the money.</p>
<p>Also, you should figure out where you can get in and when. Some programs like Haas at Berkeley are two-year programs that you apply to after you have been at Berkeley (or at a school from which you are transferring). It is tough to get in, so this is a risk. You might be better off applying to schools where admission is admission into the b-school.</p>
<p>Other than this, since you have such a clear focus, make sure you do a reality check. Talk to people who do what you think you want to do. Find out about the options. Learn everything you can so if you are interviewing or schmoozing with people you know what to say. I-banking? Money management? Private equity? Hedge fund? What do you want to do? Money means a lot of things.</p>
<p>y7bbb6,
If your GC says that you are a match for BC and a definite for Vanderbilt ED, then I would say that U Penn, including Wharton, is not completely out of the question. Here are the relative 25/75 SAT numbers:</p>
<p>Boston College
Verbal 610-700 (Average of 655)
Math 640-720 (680)
Combined 1250-1420 (1335) </p>
<p>Vanderbilt
Verbal 630-720 (675)
Math 650-740 (695)
Combined 1280-1460 (1370)</p>
<p>U Penn
Verbal 650-740 (695)
Math 680-770 (725)
Combined 1330-1510 (1420)</p>
<p>While U Penn is clearly statistically stronger (and Wharton students may be even stronger), there remains a decent overlap of students. If you have other parts of your application that indicate excellence and commitment, you may have a better-than-you-think chance at U Penn and Wharton. </p>
<p>Should you not reach the U Penn goal, BC's business school is strong and rapidly improving. BC students are making a greater mark on Wall Street and the money management businesses in Boston have many, many BC grads. If your goal is NYC placement after college, Vanderbilt is certainly possible and the Vanderbilt name is well received. However, the absolute numbers of Vanderbilt alums on Wall Street is comparatively few and, as the list above indicates, Vanderbilt does not have an undergraduate business school.</p>
<p>Whoa no undergrad business at Vanderbilt? I really need to look into these things in more detail...</p>
<p>Anyways thanks Alexandre, Bedhead, and Hawkette, ur info really helps.</p>
<p>Graduating from NYU right in NYC would present numerous job opportunities due to the number of recruiters in the area, correct? And NYC would probably offer high paying jobs as well (high living cost, but high pay too...yes?)</p>
<p>By the way guys i'm looking to graduate from college, work for a few years to (possibly) pay off my college debt, and then get my MBA somewhere. I know your graduate school matters much more, but that is way off in the future at this point (i'm a high school junior)</p>
<p>Investment banking and hedge funds are both choices that sound appealing to me, but at this point I cannot say which job I want to go into. I will definitely look around and talk to people about that (although i won't even have to decide until AFTER i go to college correct?)</p>
<p>Any career choice advice in this field based on salary?</p>
<p>Hawkette, thanks for the info, but UPenn really is out of reach. My SAT scores total 2340 with a 1560/1600, (780 in each subject), but my GPA is around 3.4 and UPenn doesn't like to take many from my school (for some weird reason...)</p>
<p>Also, I live in MA, but i was planning on applying to UCLA just for a shot at a UC. Would switching my pick to Berkeley for Haas be too much of a long shot? (I understand LA is a long shot anyways)</p>
<p>If you want to make money...look for schools with lots of finance recruitment and lots of big alums in finance...such as the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Chicago.</p>
<p>y7bbb6, you do realize that it is possible to land a job with an IBank even if you don't major in Business. You could major in Economics or Mathematics and get very good offers from Wall Street firms. Schools lile Brown, Chicago, Columbia, Dartmouth, Duke, Northwestern, or any other top universities... don't have undergraduate business programs, but IBanks recruit very heavily on those campuses. In fact, with the exception of Wharton, Ross, Sloan, Stern, McIntire, Haas, McDonough and maybe another couple programs, most undergraduate business programs aren't as effective at placing students into top IBanks as the schools listed by Thethoughtprocess.</p>
<p>If you are going for UCLA, I think the marginal difficulty and expense of applying to Berkeley is not much, but bear in mind Haas is a 2-yr. program. It did get a number 1 ranking from recruiters in the recent Bus. Week rankings of undergrad, including some i-banks, but I think you'd really have to examine it to declare it a fit. I am not seeing that it's your best choice, given the possibility especially that you wouldn't get in once at Berkeley (one never knows, no matter how great one is).</p>
<p>One thing I noticed is the undergrad salaries at all those schools are relatively the same. At Grad school they change substantially between schools.
Most of the schools ranked in the 25-50 range have average starting salaries for undergrads of 45-50 K.
I suggest pick the school u like, dont really worry bout salaries cause their similar at most of those schools mentioned in the lists unless ur looking at the top 20 schools. </p>
<p>Also picking a school according to the general overall rankings is also good to look at as it gives u a general idea of the prestige the school has. helps a lot for grad school.</p>
<p>Your GPA's pretty low, but your excellent SATs make up for this. If you're interested iN Vandy and BC, I would suggest Notre Dame, Emory, Rice, and UVa.</p>
<p>You should also definitely look into Michigan. You'll probably get in with a 2340. It's a pretty sick school with top notch academics and sports. Also, it's arguably a top 10 recruited school on Wall Street. After freshman year at Michigan, you apply to the Ross School of Business. Ross is consistently ranked a top 5 undergrad business school every year and will almost guarantee a great job in business, straight out of college.</p>