<p>"Barrons, you’re making a real effort to find a negative in what I am posting here. Do you think I disagree with your statement that Berkeley “produces many great graduates?” The absolute numbers posted in the OP are there to positively confirm that. </p>
<p>The only difference is that a school such as Berkeley is simply not the best at producing PhDs as it barely makes a top 50 list that is controlled for size"</p>
<p>Obviously you think there is a big difference. I think this is a false conclusion based on comapring two mutually exclusive groups. Big state U students are not the same as small LAC students. They may have different goals and backgrounds. But to imply that anyone pondering going through to a PhD will be worse off going to UCB over a LAC is just wrong.</p>