Top schools are not worth it?

<p>"Oh, gag, polarbearvsshark. I love me some elite schools, but you know, there are PEOPLE at BU and Pace and wherever else who are lively and passionate, and don’t deserve to be called “mundane.” </p>

<p>Hey don’t be picking on Pace. I’m sure the money they “stole” from me for the 1 year I attended went to some really useful purpose. I believe it was for the preseident’s golden parachute.</p>

<p>Well many may disagree with me but being in business for 30 years (corporate world- financial industry) in my opinion a top school helps. My peers in law,finance,academics,and the federal government all report that a top school helps to gain interviews and access to a network of successful, well mannered and bright people. Everyone can come up with exceptions especially in a recession where all bets are off. Even a deity at times encounters difficulty landing a job. :). Or I hear about their slouch uncle that went to Harvard and lived out of a bottle as a rationalization for why top schools are a waste of time.
I have also witnessed state school stars climb the ladder and community college grads start their own business and do very well. If the measurement is financial success and societal prestige a top school still gets attention! If one does not care and is going to do what they want in life regardless of potential income and prestige, many fine state universities or community colleges work well also.</p>

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<p>Yeah, it seems that for business majors, it really matters. I have long-time friends in accounting, finance and management and (from what they tell me) the question about “your B-School” is mentioned often.</p>

<p>It’s probably another reason why I am glad to be in engineering/computer science. After dealing with all of the math, physics and engineering as an undergrad, I would hate someone asking me about “my E-School” (using E-school for graduate engineering school).</p>

<p>For an engineering degree for someone interested in the Petroleum/Energy industry - I would not do Ivy League.</p>

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<p>Maybe this varies by geographical region - it’s a little different here in flyover country. The B-school from which my D graduated last May is not well known outside the Midwest, but she and her accounting friends had no problem whatsoever finding jobs. (in her case, she had offers from multiple companies.)</p>

<p>Maybe your argument makes more sense if you expand your definition of “top school” a bit. If the B-school is regionally known and respected; if the alumni network is strong and active; then, yes, I’ll agree with you - the B-school name is important. I guess I would argue, though, that the “top school” designation extends beyond the usual suspects AND varies by geography.</p>

<p>Per #174: Yeah, there are, PizzaGirl, passionate PEEPUL at B.U., but not enough of them. Though at PACE, it was just dismal provincial focal encapsulation and a standard of mediocrity.</p>

<p>^^^PolarBearVsShark: Whatever you’ve learned at whatever elite institutions you’ve attended (or visited), it apparently did not include learning to write clearly.</p>

<p>Agree with Scout, especially in flyover country, many of the schools that are considered “top” on CC appear to be just another Notheast LAC where they have known commodities when it comes to the Midwestern LACs (including schools that are considered mediocre here). Plenty of hiring managers know my S school and the alumni network is strong in the Midwest. We don’t call our alums the Mafia for nothing. In a similar fashion, graduating from one of the Big 10 schools is a plus rather than a negative.</p>

<p>"Many of the schools that are considered “top” on CC appear to be just another Northeast LAC where they have known commodities when it comes to the Midwestern LACs (including schools that are considered mediocre here). Plenty of hiring managers know my S school and the alumni network is strong in the Midwest. We don’t call our alums the Mafia for nothing. In a similar fashion, graduating from one of the Big 10 schools is a plus rather than a negative. "</p>

<p>Absolutely agree. It’s part of that provincialism discussed on another thread - oh, the schools that are in my backyard, everyone in my backyard knows - so they must be known everywhere.</p>

<p>The fact is that nobody will care few years down the road. They will care about experience much more. And I believe, in Midwest, they do not care, period. Many get their education while working, companies are paying, so they go to local school.
But on the other hand, if somebody likes certain names and have unlimited resources, why not? You are free to choose whatever you like, so take advantage, while it lasts…</p>

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Stale donuts?</p>

<p>^Really dry stale donuts, or soggy stale donuts?</p>

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Good question. Your thoughts?</p>

<p>As far as networking, sometimes a bigger name school can reduce networking. For example, if you go to your state flagship, you will run into people everywhere in your state that went to that university. However, if you go to a selective college that is 3 states away, the students come from a much broader geographic area and they spread out much further after college. Very few of them may end up in your state, if you return to your home state. </p>

<p>At the same time, in some cases, the degree from the selective college will stand out in the competition for jobs vs. the hundreds of applicants who all went to the local flagship.</p>

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Well, given a typical soggy stale glazed donut, you would have a “coefficient of rolling stickiness” which could govern the motion, not to mention a loss of appeal as a consumable. A dry stale glazed donut, OTOH, would be more “Flintstone like” and have a lower static friction coefficient. Plus a little tea or coffee would make it consumable by the donut fanatics among us :).</p>

<p>YMMV</p>

<p>Didn’t realize this thread required higher math skills :o</p>

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<p>You are over thinking a 1st year physics class. but, you are correct. The wheel, with respect to the road, is not moving. The axle with respect to the axle mount, is moving (although the ball bearings changes everything).</p>

<p>In any case, the principle is the same as ABS brakes. You get more friction when the wheel is not sliding with respect to the road, and less friction when it is sliding.</p>

<p>I don’t recall the question mentioning the material of the tire, so a doughnut is perfectly acceptable. However, fracturing would become more of an issue with a doughnut.</p>

<p>My head hurts…</p>

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And a kinetic coefficient of friction when it is sliding?</p>

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That’s all that really matters, isn’t it?</p>

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Doing donuts in a car is not acceptable.</p>