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For instance, Yeshiva's percentage of Jews is 100% always(I live near there and know probably close to 100 people who go/have gone there).
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<p>You dismiss the validity of a supported number, yet you cite your own anecdotal evidence?</p>
<p>university of texas is 11% jewish? they have jews in texas?</p>
<p>Yeshiva is an Orthodox school -- undergraduate it is not only 100% Jewish but likely 100% Orthodox.</p>
<p>from YU website:</p>
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The unique atmosphere of Yeshiva University exists on no other college campus in the world. Campus life encompasses a vast array
of cultural, recreational, intellectual, and religious activities reflecting the richness of Torah life in the heart of New York City.
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Shabbat is an integral part of the student life at Yeshiva University.
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<p>additional info re nature of YU - <a href="http://www.yu.edu/yeshivacollege/index_sub.asp?125%5B/url%5D">http://www.yu.edu/yeshivacollege/index_sub.asp?125</a>
<a href="http://www.yu.edu/sysyms/page.aspx?id=1341&ekmensel=420_submenu_436_link_1%5B/url%5D">http://www.yu.edu/sysyms/page.aspx?id=1341&ekmensel=420_submenu_436_link_1</a>
<a href="http://www.yu.edu/stern/%5B/url%5D">http://www.yu.edu/stern/</a></p>
<p>what i believe boxingleprechaun is pointing out is that if a school that is by definition 100% Jewish is listed as less than that, it raises a question about all of the numbers. </p>
<p>but as for the Hillel.org site -- I see nothing there that indicates that YU has less than 100% Jewish enrollment, so I don't know where that 93% ultimately comes from if the magazine supposedly got its numbers from Hillel. <a href="http://www.hillel.org/HillelApps/JLOC/Campus.aspx?AgencyId=18013%5B/url%5D">http://www.hillel.org/HillelApps/JLOC/Campus.aspx?AgencyId=18013</a></p>
<p>Bottomline lesson -- don't just rely on numbers -- you have to talk to people at a given Hillel to find out what is really going on at a campus. My guess is that these listings may help give a general idea of how many large a Jewish population a campus has to give someone a starting reference to look further -- but it tells you nothing about the nature of that Jewish community.</p>
<p>UMD attracts students from the entire mid-Atlantic -- there are a lot of kids from NJ and NY who head south. Maryland has a VERY vibrant Jewish community on campus.</p>
<p>do the numbers include grad students? because yeshiva has a nice law school, grad psych department, and probably other grad programs that could attract non-jews</p>
<p>I wish I could answer these questions-- I really can't. This is one of the few times where I am just regurgitating data I found elsewhere.</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier, the way in which this data is presented is quite faulty and misleading. There is also no way that Hillel is accurate, as there are plenty of Jews who do not belong to their campus Hillel <em>waves hand</em> and don't imagine they would be counted in any Hillel census.</p>
<p>At the same time, though, there have been enough posters asking about Jewish life at certain schools, and this data does give an indication of where Jewish students tend to go. Chances are, if it's prestigious, liberal, urban, or near New York, it has a high population of Jewish students.</p>
<p>Yes, believe it or not, there ARE jews in Texas! In fact, Galveston was a port for European Jews to arrive in an attempt to have them disperse throughout the United States. <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1187779141948&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull%5B/url%5D">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1187779141948&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</a></p>
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<p>if you go to the hillel.org site and it looks like the number is based on undergrad -- see post #1 above lists Yeshiva as having 2810 Jewish students. Hillel.org has Yeshiva as having 2807 Jewish undergraduates. <a href="http://www.hillel.org/HillelApps/JLOC/Campus.aspx?AgencyId=18013%5B/url%5D">http://www.hillel.org/HillelApps/JLOC/Campus.aspx?AgencyId=18013</a></p>
<p>unbelievablem, thank you for clarifying what I was trying to point out. I don't think that non-Jewish students can get into Yeshiva grad, such as Cordoza(law) or Einstein(med). I believe this because it is REQUIRED to come to Jewish prayers 3 times daily, and I'm sure there is a regimen of religous learning(though probably not as much as in the undrgrad programs) that is required also.</p>
<p>Boxing...You are sooooo wrong. I know many non-Jews who attend Cardozo and Einstein. I do not believe that there are any prayer requirements, at least I have never, ever heard of it. Highly doubtful.</p>
<p>And, by the way, conservative and, certainly, reformed Jews do not spend the day praying. Silly.</p>
<p>gabriellah, I'm not sure about the grad schools, I was just assuming; for undergrad I am POSITIVE that there is prayer/learning requirements.</p>
<p>Columbia has a joint program with the Jewish Theological Seminary. Students who enroll in it are counted as General Studies students at Columbia. So Columbia's percentages would vary if GS students are included and also, depending on whether Barnard is counted as part of Columbia or separate (it's both). Barnard has a significant number of Orthodox Jews, whose families like the fact that it is a woman's college. Suffice it to say, there is a strong Jewish student body at Columbia.</p>
<p>As for Jews in Texas, who can forget Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys? Didn't the old Kinkster also run for public office in Texas?</p>
<p>IN addition gabriellah, I am aware that cinservative/reform don't pray/learn the whole day. However, Yeshiva is heared towardsthe Orthodox community of Jews.</p>
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<p>List Collge (the Joint Columbia/Barnard and JTS college) is so small, it wouldn't really affect the numbers that greatly -- just a few hundred students. at the Hillel.org site, Columbia, Barnard and JTS are all listed separately -- and the number included in post #1 is the number of students listed at hillel.org for Columbia. also if you look at enrollment figures at Columbia's website (<a href="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/abstract/enrollment_headcount.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/abstract/enrollment_headcount.htm</a>) it looks like the hillel.org numbers do not include either general studies or barnard</p>
<p>re YU's grad programs -- my understanding is that the nature of the student body varies by graduate program and is not necessary Orthodox at all of the programs -- it depends on the nature of the program. While all their schools may be attractive to Orthodox students because of the ease of religious observance there, some are not designed specifically to educate for the Orthodox community alone. This is supported by the following from their websites:</p>
<p>Medical School--
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How does Einstein’s affiliation with an orthodox Jewish university affect my life?
The food is kosher (plentiful and good) and the Library is closed from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday (except for the winter months when the Library is closed all day Saturday).
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<p>School of Social Work-
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How culturally diverse are the students? </p>
<p>Our student body is highly diverse. We currently have students from
Israel,India,Africa,Nepal,France,Korea,Russia,Canada,China, and all over the United States. We welcome students of every race, age, faith, and gender-preference.
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School of Jewish Education-
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The mission of the Azrieli Graduate School is to train a cadre of Torah educators who will relay the rich knowledge and traditions of the Jewish heritage with warmth, joy, and intelligence.
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<p>Grad Program for Women Talmud studies-
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The goal of GPATS is to develop an elite cadre of female scholars of Talmud and Halakha who will serve as leaders and role models for the Orthodox Jewish community.
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<p>also in general -- rather than speculate about any school -- it is often fairly easy to go to their website and get actual information.</p>
<p>For Texas Jews Kinky Friedman and Nieman-Marcus come to mind.</p>
<p>OT, but I remember when my sister had a BBG event at her chapter in Seattle for the whole US. It was kinda cute to see the girl from Atlanta say, Shalom y'all...</p>
<p>As a point of interest (to me), according to write-ups, foksinger Lucy Kaplansky has a PhD in clinical Psychology from Yeshiva. She is Jewish, but I doubt she's orthodox.</p>
<p>really monydad?! im a lucy fan and didnt know she had her phd. cool!</p>
<p>UW has a very strong Hebrew/Jewish Studies program and is adding Kosher dorm food.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.madison.com/tct/news/209666%5B/url%5D">http://www.madison.com/tct/news/209666</a></p>
<p><a href="http://hebrew.wisc.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://hebrew.wisc.edu/</a></p>