<p>I really like the top 10 of Us News.</p>
<p>Harvey Mudd undergrad is excellent and is #1 on the Colleges whose highest degree is bachelor or master list:</p>
<ol>
<li> Harvey Mudd</li>
<li> Rose-Hulman Inst. Tech</li>
<li> Cooper Union!</li>
<li> US Military Academy</li>
<li> US Naval Academy</li>
<li> Cal Poly - San Luis Obispo</li>
<li> Bucknell</li>
<li> US Air Force Academy</li>
<li> Embry Riddle Aeronautical U.</li>
<li> Milwaukee School of Engineering</li>
</ol>
<p>So there's a bunch of lesser known schools that are evidently very good for engineering. I believe Cooper Union is free if you're lucky enough to get in.</p>
<p>So is Olin, right?</p>
<p>yeah it's free too and it's not anywhere on either list so that just goes to show, don't believe just the rankings. Olin is great for engineering as well and I have no idea where it's at!</p>
<p>I was also going to mention Olin, which is an excellent engineering school, maybe up there with MIT/Cal Tech/Berkeley/Stanford...you get full scholarship if you are admitted I believe and it is in Massachusetts. It's a very new school, first graduating class in 2001? Something like that.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention, Cal Poly SLO is also very good for engineering.</p>
<p>vicissitudes, Olin is not as good as MIT or Caltech. It isn't even as good as Harvey Mudd or Rose Hulman, and neither oen of those are as good as MIT or Caltech. Olin seems to have the potential to become as good as Harvey Mudd in a few decades, but it takes that long for a university to rise up the rankings. At the moment, Olin has yet to graduate its first class. Comparing it to the likes of MIT and Caltech is way too premature.</p>
<p>Yes it's probably not as good as MIT / Cal Tech. I believe Olin has already graduated its first class...this year? Anyway, I've heard of students turning down MIT and Harvard to go to Olin. It has some really good professors and facilities, not to mention the scholarship. Anyway, it's a great school that deserves to be mentioned.</p>
<p>There are students who turn down MIT and Harvard to attend Michigan, and Michigan costs $40,000 to attend. Does that mean that Michigan is as good as MIT or Harvard? Obviously not. I agree that Olin is a good school, but how good will depend on how it develops in the next 20-30 years. For now, I would say it is one of the top 10 non-research based Engineering programs.</p>
<p>Yeah alexandre is a great person who seems to know so much about universities and is amazingly helpful person :). I'd pay a lot of attention to what he says.
oops I only saw the first page of the thread but my post is still correct</p>
<p>Cornell ECE is an excellent program, but very demanding. Professors are generally excellent teachers as well as outstanding researchers. Professors do all lecturing and their doors are open outside of class. The Cornell faculty in ECE, Comp Sci, and Applied Physics are excellent educators. (Many other departments are great too, of course.) The curriculum tends to be more theoretical and somewhat less applied compared to other top schools. Industry tends to have somewhat less influence on curriculum at Cornell, but training is still cutting-edge. Lots of research experience opportunities are available for undergrads if you actively seek them.</p>
<p>The Cornell masters program accepts quite a few Cornell undergrads. Many grads continue in masters programs and PhD programs. Some land jobs in banking or business, or go into medicine or law.</p>
<p>Graduate students have office hours during which they assist with problem sets or assignments. Cornell ECE is explicity designed to teach a work ethic as well as a curriculum. Students are perhaps two-thirds Asian or Asian descent, including Middle-Eastern and Indian, and maybe half of these are US citizens. </p>
<p>I think Cornell is the best school for undergraduate engineering in the world. Stanford is great but has a very large Eng graduate program in comparison to undergrad. I was a little turned off by the narrower focus, lower graduation rates, and culture/climate at the Tech schools. The large publics have excellent resources but student credentials are a little lower at most publics and I feared there would be a lack of personal attention at the publics. That was my rationale, anyway.</p>
<p>Cornell provides the rich intellectual and cultural environment of an Ivy League school. Beautiful campus.</p>
<p>US News undergrad ranking for Northwestern:
Overall engineering program rank:14
Biomedical rank:12
Chemical rank:17
Civil rank:13
Computer rank:17
Electrical rank:15
Environmental rank:11
Industrial/Manufacturing rank:8
Materials rank:5
Mechanical rank:17</p>
<p>The undegraduate EE program at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute is also one the worlds best, as is RPI engineering in general.</p>
<p>Hey Alexandre I realized that Duke and Columbia Fu are not in your top 3 tiers list. Did you forget to include them, or are their EE programs just not that good?</p>
<p>I did not forget them, but they are probably good enough, although I would probably put them in Group IV myself.</p>