Total Applications Growth/Decline, class of 2017

Applying to College
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<p>thanks math/Sue22, just found it as you were posting. I will update all the rest shortly. wow, Skidmore +42%…that must have been one heck of an ad campaign.</p>

<p><a href=“Application Tally 2013 - Graphic - NYTimes.com”>Application Tally 2013 - Graphic - NYTimes.com;

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<p>What about vandy Papa Chicken?</p>

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<p>Any possible reason for Skidmore’s increase? I’m applying there… yikes</p>

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<p>^^^ According to the NYT’s data, Skidmore got more applicants than Amherst, Williams, Bowdoin, and Vassar. That’s incredible. How?</p>

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<p>updated w/ NYT data </p>

<p>Skidmore +42% (8,126)
Clark +27.8% (5,472)
Case Western +25% (>18,000)
UChicago +20% (30,369)
Boston U +19.4% (52,532)
UCSC +16.9% (38,507)
UC Merced +16.6% (14,966)
UCSB +13.9% (62,402)
UC Riverside +13.2% (33,809)
UC Davis +13.1% (55,877)
Tufts +12% (18,339)
UC Irvine +11.3% (60,619)
Alma +11.1% (1,820)
NYU +11.2% (48,606)
UCLA +10.8% (80,472)
UCSD +10.8% (67,403)
Babson +10.3% (6,080)
UC Berkeley +9.7% (67,658)
Emerson +9.7% (7,756)
Vanderbilt +8.9% (30,870)
Lehigh +8.7% (12,548)
Rochester +8.2% (17,146)
Claremont McKenna +8.0% (5,461)
Colgate +6.9% (8,335)
Bowdoin +6.5% (7,150)
Stanford +5.9% (38,800)
Bates +5.9% (5,194)
Trinity +5.7% (7,500)
Columbia +5.1% (33,460)
Fordham +5.0% (35,229)
Wesleyan +4.2% (10,942)
U Southern Cal +3.7% (47,800)
Virginia +3.5% (~29,250)
Yale +2.8% (29,790)
Middlebury +2.6% (9,075)
William & Mary +2.5% (14,000)
Olin +2.4% (800)
Barnard +2.3% (5,565)
Northwestern +2.2% (32,772)
Rice +1.4% (15,345)
Juliard +0.82% (2,338)
JHU +0.52% (20,608)
Duke +0.4% (31,752)
Brown +0.22% (28,733)
Villanova +0.21% (14,933)
Penn +0.00% (31,219)
Caltech -0.02% (5,536)
Scripps -0.29% (2,366)
Princeton -0.59% (26,505)
Holy Cross -1.3% (7,079)
Hamilton -1.8% (5,017)
Elon -2.5% (9,791)
Dartmouth -2.8% (22,400)
Williams -3.3% (6,836)
Bucknell -3.6% (7,834)
Vassar -3.9% (7,600)
Amherst -8.2% (7863)
RPI -10.7% (13,600)
Boston College -26% (~25,000)</p>

<p>Notes

  • I kept our data for Tufts as it appears more up to date
  • many NYT numbers are in the hundreds implying to me that those are estimates. I expect some updates later.
  • no numbers yet on Harvard, MIT, Pomona, Swarthmore, Cornell, Emory, Notre Dame, Wash U, Haverford, Davidson, U Michigan, Georgetown among others</p>
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<p>yup, that Skidmore increase is huge. I have no firsthand idea why, other than guessing they have upped their recruiting game. Here’s one slightly dated blog about their social media and student reach-out efforts:
[Social Media Corner: The Next Frontier in Higher Ed Recruitment? Skidmore Web Developers blog](<a href=“http://academics.skidmore.edu/blogs/skidwebdev/2011/10/07/social-media-corner-the-next-frontier-in-higher-ed-recruitment/”>http://academics.skidmore.edu/blogs/skidwebdev/2011/10/07/social-media-corner-the-next-frontier-in-higher-ed-recruitment/&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

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<p>Papa–I have been following this tread but do not recall what type of source documentation you like to use. I don’t know if this will suffice for Cornell, but am passing along for you to review.</p>

<p>“Almost 600” is not an exact figure, but using 600, it appears the # of ED apps increased approximately 16.7% (but assume lower since actual figure is lower than 600).</p>

<p>Disregard if source is inadequate.<br>
[Students</a> Accepted Early to Cornell Express Elation, Relief | The Cornell Daily Sun](<a href=“http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2012/12/21/students-accepted-early-cornell-express-elation-relief]Students”>http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2012/12/21/students-accepted-early-cornell-express-elation-relief)</p>

<p>This year, Cornell received 4,193 early decision applications and accepted 1,237 students, according to Claudia Wheatley, director of University press relations. The University received almost 600 more applications for the Class of 2017 than the Class of 2016, and its early acceptance rate dipped from the Class of 2016’s 32.7 percent to 29.5 percent.</p>

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<p>here are Skidmore’s total apps per ‘class of xx’ and year over year growth, xiggi format. As you will see, Skidmores numbers appear to have been on a bit of a roller coaster, and this year is a meteoric recovery out of a hole…</p>

<p>17 8126 42.4%
16 5706 -1.3%
15 5780 -3.8%
14 6011 -5.7%
13 6371 -12.9%
12 7316 8.1%
11 6768 1.7%
10 6652 9.9%
09 6055 0.4%
08 6032 2.2%
07 5903 5.3%
06 5606 -0.5%
05 5633 3.0%
04 5471</p>

<p>source beyond the NYT data: <a href=“http://cms.skidmore.edu/ir/facts/common.cfm[/url]”>http://cms.skidmore.edu/ir/facts/common.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>thanks CT1417…that article would definitely suffice for an estimate, but we already have Cornell covered on the Early thread <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1418161-early-applications-growth-decline-class-2017-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1418161-early-applications-growth-decline-class-2017-a.html&lt;/a&gt; with NYT early stats table source: <a href=“Early Admissions Statistics 2013 - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com”>Early Admissions Statistics 2013 - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com;

<p>We are still waiting on their total apps info…Cornell is usually near the tail end of the Ivies for reporting, so maybe one of these weeks soon.</p>

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<p>Got it! I should have gone back to the beginning of the thread but got lazy.</p>

<p>I wonder why NYT chart does not include the # accepted since the Dec 16th article provided the figure. </p>

<p>Will let you know if I see RD figures posted. Thanks for continuing to update this info.</p>

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<p>this Chicago article’s title certainly sums up how the schools consider the selectivity-improvement game:
[App</a> numbers challenge competition – The Chicago Maroon](<a href=“Laureate discusses themes in contemporary poetry – Chicago Maroon”>Laureate discusses themes in contemporary poetry – Chicago Maroon)</p>

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<p>Northwestern confirms NYT (dated yesterday)…slight decrease to 32,766 applicants, still +2.2%. Good positive-spin article title: [The</a> Daily Northwestern : Northwestern gets record number of applications, will have lowest admit rate yet](<a href=“http://dailynorthwestern.com/2013/01/28/campus/northwestern-gets-record-number-of-applications-will-have-lowest-admit-rate-yet/]The”>Northwestern gets record number of applications, will have lowest admit rate yet)</p>

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<p>btw, the median growth with the group thus far is 5.0% (Fordham)</p>

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<p>It will be interesting to see who ultimately ends up with the lowest admit rate among elite national universities. Harvard, Stanford, Yale and Columbia all seem to be in the running, but I think it will be a 2 horse race (between Harvard and Stanford) down the stretch.</p>

<p>There is a striking difference between Harvard and Stanford’s response to increases in early applicants. Harvard responded by boosting its early admit pool from 772 to 895 and continuing to defer large numbers of students. Stanford responded by lowering its early admit pool from 755 to 725 and deferring very few. I presume favoring early applicants will boost Harvard’s yield over Stanford’s yet again. Still, Harvard and Stanford’s yield rates are close enough now, and Stanford’s total apps have increased so much, that if Harvard’s total apps stay flat or decrease, Stanford’s admit rate could actually end up lower than Harvard’s this year.</p>

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<p>nice analysis Socal, hadn’t realized the differing strategies. We’ll see.</p>

<p>on a different note, perhaps a harbinger of the future?
[Law</a> Schools Face Steep Drop in Applicants](<a href=“http://www.americanlawyer.com/PubArticleTAL.jsp?id=1359289850479&slreturn=20130029132757]Law”>http://www.americanlawyer.com/PubArticleTAL.jsp?id=1359289850479&slreturn=20130029132757)</p>

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<p>A couple of things.</p>

<p>Harvard’s early admission rate is very similar to Princeton’s (and Brown for that matter.) I believe that Harvard tends to look more at Princeton and Yale than all the way to the Left Coast. </p>

<p>In the meantime, Richard Shaw might also look with some trepidation at the number 2,326 which will mean an overall admission rate of … below 6 percent. In Cambridge, the same puzzle might very well 2,100 admits out of a pool of 35,000. </p>

<p>Similar projection should indicate that Columbia and Yale will be closer to 7 percent than to the lower digit. </p>

<p>In other “news” it seems that the Ivy League will be below 10 percent in overall admissions and above 21 percent for RD. And, obviously, the numbers for Stanford and MIT being lower in comparison.</p>

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<p>this CMC report says ~+9%, no final app number yet. I’ll take that as more up to date than NYT. [No change to ED1 numbers.]
[CMC</a> Announces 9% Increase in Applications Forum | The Official Student Publication of Claremont McKenna College](<a href=“http://cmcforum.com/news/01292013-cmc-announces-9-increase-in-applications]CMC”>http://cmcforum.com/news/01292013-cmc-announces-9-increase-in-applications)</p>

<p>Re-sort
Skidmore +42% (8,126)
Clark +27.8% (5,472)
Case Western +25% (>18,000)
UChicago +20% (30,369)
Boston U +19.4% (52,532)
UCSC +16.9% (38,507)
UC Merced +16.6% (14,966)
UCSB +13.9% (62,402)
UC Riverside +13.2% (33,809)
UC Davis +13.1% (55,877)
Tufts +12% (18,339)
UC Irvine +11.3% (60,619)
Alma +11.1% (1,820)
NYU +11.2% (48,606)
UCLA +10.8% (80,472)
UCSD +10.8% (67,403)
Babson +10.3% (6,080)
UC Berkeley +9.7% (67,658)
Emerson +9.7% (7,756)
Claremont McKenna ~+9% (5,461 by NYT, back-calc’d to be ~5510 from CMC)
Vanderbilt +8.9% (30,870)
Lehigh +8.7% (12,548)
Rochester +8.2% (17,146)
Colgate +6.9% (8,335)
Bowdoin +6.5% (7,150)
Stanford +5.9% (38,800)
Bates +5.9% (5,194)
Trinity +5.7% (7,500)
Columbia +5.1% (33,460)
Fordham +5.0% (35,229)
Wesleyan +4.2% (10,942)
U Southern Cal +3.7% (47,800)
Virginia +3.5% (~29,250)
Yale +2.8% (29,790)
Middlebury +2.6% (9,075)
William & Mary +2.5% (14,000)
Olin +2.4% (800)
Barnard +2.3% (5,565)
Northwestern +2.2% (32,766)
Rice +1.4% (15,345)
Juliard +0.82% (2,338)
JHU +0.52% (20,608)
Duke +0.4% (31,752)
Brown +0.22% (28,733)
Villanova +0.21% (14,933)
Penn +0.00% (31,219)
Caltech -0.02% (5,536)
Scripps -0.29% (2,366)
Princeton -0.59% (26,505)
Holy Cross -1.3% (7,079)
Hamilton -1.8% (5,017)
Elon -2.5% (9,791)
Dartmouth -2.8% (22,400)
Williams -3.3% (6,836)
Bucknell -3.6% (7,834)
Vassar -3.9% (7,600)
Amherst -8.2% (7863)
RPI -10.7% (13,600)
Boston College -26% (~25,000)</p>

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<p>The fact that CMC seemed to have survived the (erroneously) predicted apocalypse might disappoint the ones who wished for an outcome different than a 9 percent growth in application. </p>

<p>Sorry 06459 Zippers! Some of us did know better!</p>

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<p>my guess is that CMC, not being as name-brand like many of the bigger elites, could have actually benefited from the exposure. Sometimes, even seemingly bad news is good for increasing awareness…especially when the fundamental product is sound. :)</p>

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<p>Union reports in…+2.5% (5,643)
this year: [Applications</a> to Union set another record - Union College](<a href=“http://www.union.edu/news/stories/2013/01/applications-to-union-set-another-record.php]Applications”>http://www.union.edu/news/stories/2013/01/applications-to-union-set-another-record.php)
last year to enable the math: [Record</a> number of applicants for the class of 2016](<a href=“http://www.concordy.com/article/news/february-23-2012/record-number-of-applicants-for-the-class-of-2016/3906/]Record”>http://www.concordy.com/article/news/february-23-2012/record-number-of-applicants-for-the-class-of-2016/3906/)</p>

<p>re-sort
Skidmore +42% (8,126)
Clark +27.8% (5,472)
Case Western +25% (>18,000)
UChicago +20% (30,369)
Boston U +19.4% (52,532)
UCSC +16.9% (38,507)
UC Merced +16.6% (14,966)
UCSB +13.9% (62,402)
UC Riverside +13.2% (33,809)
UC Davis +13.1% (55,877)
Tufts +12% (18,339)
UC Irvine +11.3% (60,619)
Alma +11.1% (1,820)
NYU +11.2% (48,606)
UCLA +10.8% (80,472)
UCSD +10.8% (67,403)
Babson +10.3% (6,080)
UC Berkeley +9.7% (67,658)
Emerson +9.7% (7,756)
Claremont McKenna ~+9% (5,461 by NYT, back-calc’d to be ~5510 from CMC)
Vanderbilt +8.9% (30,870)
Lehigh +8.7% (12,548)
Rochester +8.2% (17,146)
Colgate +6.9% (8,335)
Bowdoin +6.5% (7,150)
Stanford +5.9% (38,800)
Bates +5.9% (5,194)
Trinity +5.7% (7,500)
Columbia +5.1% (33,460)
Fordham +5.0% (35,229)
Wesleyan +4.2% (10,942)
U Southern Cal +3.7% (47,800)
Virginia +3.5% (~29,250)
Yale +2.8% (29,790)
Middlebury +2.6% (9,075)
William & Mary +2.5% (14,000)
Union +2.5% (5,643)
Olin +2.4% (800)
Barnard +2.3% (5,565)
Northwestern +2.2% (32,766)
Rice +1.4% (15,345)
Juliard +0.82% (2,338)
JHU +0.52% (20,608)
Duke +0.4% (31,752)
Brown +0.22% (28,733)
Villanova +0.21% (14,933)
Penn +0.00% (31,219)
Caltech -0.02% (5,536)
Scripps -0.29% (2,366)
Princeton -0.59% (26,505)
Holy Cross -1.3% (7,079)
Hamilton -1.8% (5,017)
Elon -2.5% (9,791)
Dartmouth -2.8% (22,400)
Williams -3.3% (6,836)
Bucknell -3.6% (7,834)
Vassar -3.9% (7,600)
Amherst -8.2% (7863)
RPI -10.7% (13,600)
Boston College -26% (~25,000)</p>