Trading SAT 800 Math Skills for Critical Reading 800 Skills

<p>Lol, exactly what the title says.</p>

<p>I am what you say an expert on the SAT Math section as I constantly get 800 on the section and it's really easy for me. I usually have like 5 mins left to take a nap - literally.</p>

<p>Anyone who can and has made a 800 on his/her Critical Reading Section and isn't so hot on the Math Section, I am willing to give and teach all that I know about the SAT Math Section and what to study to get a 800 on the Math Section if that person is willing to give and teach all that he/she knows about how to get a 800 on the Critical Reading to me.</p>

<p>Since I am taking the SAT on May 3, this offer is limited. I promise that I will release everything I know if that person is willing to do the same.</p>

<p>I think this is a fair deal and if you would like to email me my email is <a href="mailto:hyzoe@yahoo.com">hyzoe@yahoo.com</a></p>

<p>Cheers!</p>

<p>Michael</p>

<p>Be able to read and comprehend written information within a predetermined period of time?</p>

<p>I’m afraid the vibe I get on here is that it’s a lot easier for math-deficient people to improve on that section then for CR-deficient people to improve on theirs. This could just be due to the nature of what is being measured, but it doesn’t seem to be like the math section where there are “tricks of the trade” that can be learned and taught pretty easily. People geared to do well on CR usually do it primarily because of natural ability, less so because of learned skills.</p>

<p>^ Yeah, I agree with what Melancholy said.</p>

<p>i disagree with melancholy…i raised my cr from 500 to 800 from learning reading strategies and analyzing types of questions asked and what to eliminate.</p>

<p>I have no doubt that people can improve; however, it is, on average, easier to improve in Math than in Critical reading.</p>

<p>My college counselor told me that the only way to improve on the critical reading section is to read a lot and improve your speed. I’m not sure if I believe him… I read a lot anyways and seem to do decently. </p>

<p>But yeah, being math-deficient myself, I can vouch for the easier-to-pull-math-up theory . I didn’t get a 520 on math like my 10th grade PSAT predicted :smiley: yay!</p>

<p>Noitaraperp</p>

<p>I have been doing the same thing you have, analyzing types of questions asked, but eliminating answers on hard questions befuddles me.
I seem to have 2 answer choices left and both seem reasonable. It’s hard for me to decipher between the “best” and “next to best” answer.
Any advice on that?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>P.S. I believe is actually quite easier to improve since it is largely memorization and mastering of formulas and concepts while for CR there isn’t really anything one can memorize with the exception of vocabulary.</p>

<p>My CR score was 200 points higher than my math score. Sad, no? A friend once told me that since I’m so good at reading all I need to do is pick up a book on SAT math and read it and I’d be set. I can read as many math books as I want and my math score still won’t budge. I guess I just need to work at it some more.</p>

<p>I’d agree that reading everyday/often will help you on the test. Even if it’s stuff that seems like it won’t make a difference. At the very least you bore yourself for ten minutes every morning reading the newspaper.</p>

<p>I have the same problem as QUICKANDSLOWLY. I would destroy the Math Section, but the reading section would kill me. I also can narrow down two choices, but I would always pick the wrong one.
Help???</p>

<p>I’m definitely grouped with the math people. 800s are easy, but for the CR section, I can barely break 700 in practice tests. However, this is an improvement from when I was getting in the low 600s or high 500s range. Improvement comes naturally for the most part, though I’m sure that the best way to “study” would be to do more practice problems.</p>

<p>I need to improve on both hahah.
I constantly got 780-800 in the BB but only got 730 on the actual test. I was quite nervous during the first section of math and almost ran out of time because I got caught up on like 2 hard problems. Buuuut I’m pretty confident I can improve.</p>

<p>I REALLY need some help with CR though. I got it up to 710 and I thought that was amazing haha :slight_smile: I really want to get it up to 750+
I also have the problem of picking the best answer…I always narrow it down to 2 but for some reason I always end up picking the wrong one. And I suck at tone/mood/attitude type of questions.</p>

<p>Although I’m making a generalization, improving on the math is FAR easier than improving on the CR. In all honesty, for those who are good at math, the math section on the SAT I is a complete joke. Now, this doesn’t mean that there aren’t people who find the CR to be a joke (I know some who consider it their best section). The reason that people do well on the CR is because they either read a lot or did a lot of practice. There is no magical way to suddenly get good at CR. Read as much as you can, and do a lot of practice tests, going over not only wrong answers but also questions you answered correctly to figure out what is considered a correct answer. The best thing you can do is just talk it over with yourself and hone your reasoning abilities. If vocab is a problem, just memorize vocab lists.</p>

<p>Mathematics is NOT “largely memorization and mastering of formulas.” SAT I Math doesn’t reflect it as much but the very best math students don’t need a formula because they understand how the formula is derived, and why it is valid. You can notice the disparity a lot more in AMC contests as well as the people who get -0 on SAT II M and those who get -5 on SAT II M, but still get an 800. </p>

<p>I have not taken the SAT yet, but I have done many math sections and I can get -0 in about 12 minutes. Instead of studying a bunch of formula sheets, actually LEARN the subject, and you will go much farther. The same applies for CR. There are no “tricks” to knowing the best answer from the next best answer. You have to really understand what you’re reading, and then it becomes intuitive whether or not an answer is correct.</p>

<p>Practice makes perfect.</p>

<p>I get an 800 on the math every time, but I always have trouble breaking mid-600s on the critical reading. I obviously don’t have the perspective of a math-deficient student and ma rather biased, but I’m going to concur with the “it’s easier to improve math” argument, simply because math is more objective and more about learning straightforward information.</p>

<p>i gave up on the SAT (another 800-math, 650-CR asian here…) and took the ACTs.</p>

<p>…and BAM! 36 reading. seriously, so much easier (im a speedreader, just dont like reading more detailed stuff) :)</p>

<p>To smile: "I suck at tone/mood/attitude type of questions. "</p>

<p>Honestly, I think that right there is the thing that comes in handy most when you’ve narrowed the question down to two answers.</p>

<p>Even if the question isn’t directly asking tone or mood, the tone of the answer choice almost always gives away the correct answer. If you can “sense” the overall tone of the passage, then its easy to eliminate the answer choice that doesn’t match that tone.</p>

<p>I consistantly only miss 2-3 questions on CR. Usually 1 being vocab, 1 being a legitimate “***, how was my choice wrong”, and then the occasional stupid mistake.
I’ll be lucky to pull a 700 in Math.</p>

<p>I think what anyone who struggles with the CR section needs to realize is this: the answers are in the text.</p>

<p>When you go through a passage, and then look at a question, you’ll already have a good idea of which of the five answer choices can be immediately thrown out for having little to no relation to the story. That’ll usually leave you with 2 (sometimes 3) answer choices left. Now, all you have to do is think to yourself what you believe the answer to be… then find your answer in the text. If you can’t find your explicitly stated or at least implied in the passage, then you are WRONG. This isn’t an interpretation test… you’re basically matching the answer with the passage (it’s a matching game!).</p>

<p>Also, often times the correct answer to a question will contain a word or phrase frequently used in the text… for example, if the author mentions the playfulness of monkeys in the passage a few times, more often than not the correct answer choice will somehow mention the playfulness of monkeys (if not those exact words).</p>

<p>And very, very, very, very rarely will the correct answer choice contain an absolute such as “never” or “always” or “completely” or the like… the correct answer isn’t going to be that “intense,” if you will.</p>

<p>And all it really takes to get better at the CR section is to PRACTICE! The more you practice, the more you’ll see the absolutes in the answer choices as red flags. The more you practice, the better you’ll get at being able to find the correct answer in the text with speed… etc etc.</p>

<p>Get your hands on all the real College Board SAT’s you can… they’re seriously all you need.</p>

<p>you can practise by taking the whole passage and rewriting it yourself, summarizing as much as you can leaving the important parts in.</p>

<p>Always try to change the passage into simple facts you understand. Practise by just writing summary for each paragraph.</p>

<p>CR is really just memorizing vocab (or actually having a strong vocabulary to begin with) and inferring tone. I’m a CR 800 myself, but I’m hopeless at math. I’d love to trade if anyone wants to email me (pm me for address). Some explanations for some of the problems would be amazing.</p>

<p>i nkow same here i always get 800s on my math…and take a not 5, but 15 minute nap at the end lol. I wish i could have better inreading too, i only got 570 in reading</p>