<p>i hope they come out before! such anticipation..i hear someone say something about the 6th???</p>
<p>bump bump bump</p>
<p>My sources are saying Friday the 13th, but it would be nice if they were out sooner!</p>
<p>Friday the 13th, now thats a good day for decisions to go out haha</p>
<p>If I don't get in, I'll know what to blame!</p>
<p>According to a recent article in the Carolina Alumni Review magazine, there were only 7 sophomore transfer students admitted out of around 850 last year, which is less than 1% acceptance rate. The other 1200 students that were admitted were either junior or senior transfers, and the acceptance rate for juniors or seniors was above 60%. Not looking good for sophomore transfers...</p>
<p>I just read that article and it sounds like those seven were part of a program granting admission to students from select colleges who received a 3.0 GPA. Was this the article you read?
<a href="http://alumni.unc.edu/article.asp?SID=4774%5B/url%5D">http://alumni.unc.edu/article.asp?SID=4774</a>
At the bottom of the page it shows stats for each class and the percentage admitted.
33.5 % of sophomores were accepted while 48.7% of the juniors were accepted. There are a bunch of stats on sat's and gpa's if anyone wants to see how they match up.</p>
<p>that is the BEST article for a prospective transfer to read.....chances threads not even necessary just read this, and you'll have an idea of where you stand</p>
<p>cellardoor7: well said. Every Carolina transfer applicant needs to take a look at that article.</p>
<p>agreed, Looks like sophomores have about the same chance as applying freshman (33%) and regardless of what they said about residency not effecting the decision, the numbers clearly show NC students have a better chance. Good stuff</p>
<p>I agree with you.
I made a comment a while back that in-state transfers are at an advantage at Carolina, but many people still took the rudimentary comments from Carolina's website at face value. I got a letter from Carolina stating that my in-state residency will be used in my admissions decision. If many students have nearly the same credentials, then Carolina appears to give the advantage to in-state transfers. And Carolina gets a lot of applications with almost identical credentials. Unlike with freshman admissions, however, Carolina appears only to use residency as a tie-breaker.
Does the tie-breaker viepoint seem plausible?</p>
<p>Just because the acceptance rate for out of state students is lower than for instate students doesnt necessarily mean that UNC is more selective when it comes to out of state transfers. Let's not forget the different transfer programs that UNC has in place with some community colleges within NC that make it easier to transfer. Also, lets not assume that out of state applicants have similar stats to instate students. generally speaking, it might just be that the quality of applicants from out of state is lower than for instate. This is just my opinion, of course.</p>
<p>Compaq06: You are fundamentally assuming that OOS applicants do not have great credentials. Remember, the average transfer GPA last year was about a 3.35. Naturally, I am a skeptic. I am taking the view: Carolina is very biased towards in-state transfers. You could be correct, nevertheless, and the average OOS transfer student has about a 2.85 GPA or the like. I am taking the stance that the average OOS applicant is just as strong as the average OOS applicant.
Only a couple students participate in that transfer program you speak of. Most community colleges in North Carolina do not participate in said program as well as most North Carolina community college students. I know for a fact that less than 75 students in the entire state of North Carolina participated in said program. In fact, the number one feeder school at Carolina is North Carolina State University, not a community college. As far as what you are hypothesizing about transfers, your view seems far off. You are giving the: "It is statistically probable that the sun will not come up sometime in the next week argument." There are many reasons why in-state students are given favoritism over OOS students at Carolina. First, human nature is known to be biased, which is known a priori; in said case, Carolina is hence baised towards in state applicants. Second, in-state community colleges have articulation agreements but not OOS community college applicants. In addition to out of state community college students, many out of state four-year university transfers do not have the same requirements as Carolina, which can affect ones decision. Also, transfers are statistically more likely to accept an offer of admission if in-state. If someone from a low-end North Carolina four-year university is accepted to Carolina as a transfer, then, there is a high chance that he/she will accept.</p>
<p>I would think that Carolina would use their realease from quotas to bring in more OOS students---higher tuition??? Makes sense to me.
I do agree however that NC students are more likely to have finished their gen ed. requirements because of the articulation agreements and Carolina likes those to be finished before transfering.
I think the avg GPA suggestions are misleading though. A lot of OOS transfers are trying to come in after being rejected as freshmans and a lot of ivy league caliber students get rejected all the time--they certainly aren't going to be carrying a transfer gpa of 2.85</p>
<p>cellardoor7, I also believe that Carolina gets many high-caliber transfer applicants.
Although Carolina states that they are not, for example, biased towards in-state transfers, innately they have no choice and it is logically filled in the humans' mode of thinking. If one believes everything that one reads, hears, and the like, then one is logically impaired. I am not assuming that it is acceptable to state that, say, and as an example, everything that the Bush Administration says is false or misleading. In the same manner, I am not stating that Carolina admissions is doing anything in such a manner. Carolina, as opposed to the predictable deceit of government, is working within the confines of human nature. It is human nature which drives us in our everyday lives, and plausibly the unconscious mind is at work here. The unconscious mind works in relation to happiness, sadness, and familiarity. Associated with certain schools, locations and the like, it is often psychological factors that drives the selection of many sub-par applicants.</p>
<p>It is amazing to see how the SAT scores become less important as transfers pick up more credit hours. </p>
<p>cellardoor7, are going to Carolina if accepted (if you are not already a student)?</p>
<p>"In fact, the number one feeder school at Carolina is North Carolina State University, not a community college."</p>
<p>true. but while there were 78 transfer students from NCSU, 171 applied (45.6%)
from Durham tech CC there were 74 transfer students, and 125 applied (59.2%)</p>
<p>so the odds are better from durham tech.</p>
<p>as far as in state vs. oos carolina does say
"when at any time the number of qualified applicants for admission exceeds the number of persons who can be admitted and enrolled...those to be offered admission shall be selected on a baisis of (a) recognition of the institutions special responsibility to residents of North Carolina and (b) the institutions judgement for the applicant's relative qualifications for satisfactory performance in the specific college, school,department... that to which the applicant seeks admission."</p>
<p>so just cuz they say say it isnt a factor on the transfer website doesnt mean thats always the case.</p>
<p>Personally, I am likely in the very top 5% of transfer applicants at Carolina. </p>
<p>jwintim: Thanks for that statment, because you just proved that I was logically correct: Just because they say that residency is not a factor does not mean that that is not the case. Look into Carolina's "FAQ" section of their transfer website. The following is the question and answer: "Does my residency status affect my chances for admission?"
"No, for transfer students, residency status only affects the cost of tuition." </p>
<p>The odds of getting into Carolina are much better at Durham Tech, because Durham Tech. is an easier school to get good grades than North Carolina State University. </p>
<p>I looked at that a while back as well. In my previous post, I said that residency is used as a "tie-breaker," and I was referring to that statement you just layed out when I was making that comment, even though it is kind of vague. Nevertheless, it only proves further that OOS students are at a disadvantage. However, its is clearly obvious that Carolina will always fulfill said statement you posted. Therefore, and logically, residents are at an automatic advantage. While Durham Tech may have a high admissions rate, other North Carolina Community Colleges do not. As a whole, the average North Carolina community College transfer rate is in the low 40% range, which collectively is lower than 45%.</p>
<p>Once again, I will state that people should not take what they read at face value. Many people read the FAQ portion of Carolina's webpage and thought that that was all they needed to see. According to the quote jwintim used, Carolina picks in-state students over OOS students when they have too many qualified applicants. And we all know, for example, that Carolina gets too many qualified applicants than it can accept. Therefore, residency plays a factor in whether or not someone will get accepted as a transfer applicant, unless a person is one of the top candidates, which deviates from the methodology used in Freshman admissions.</p>
<p>Just curious, UNCCHARLOTTE...what makes you confident you are in the top 5%? what are your stats?</p>