Theatre. No deliberation because she was accepted ED.
Other schools she would have applied to in rough order of preference were:
Fordham, Williams, BU, Barnard, Yale, UNC, U of Minn
I guessed about legacy status as I said and am glad you aren’t a legacy there. If so, then you have a better shot at transferring to other similarly ranked schools. If you were legacy then your chance would be lower since that would have factored into the original acceptance. And my comment about the list of employees was to the short list that the posted included initially. It was not very telling. But even with the longer list, job placement does not necessary tell you about the relative merits of one training program over another. Graduates of a school with a marginal engineering or CS program (and I’m not saying Brown is like that) relative to schools that specialize in engineering or CS could still get great jobs if the school has a strong overall acceptance rater. I’m surprised posters don’t agree that engineering and computer science at Brown is less strong then at some of the other schools the OP inquired about.
“It is job placement data for econ/cs concentrators, which is a very small group.” right.
Johns Hopkins is not just for BME. Their computer engineering program is very strong and stronger than Brown’s. Their CS is comparable to Brown’s. Why wouldn’t you consider Hopkins?
Rankings for Hopkins seem as strong or stronger than Brown on dimensions OP seem interested in. As only one example. http://www.shanghairanking.com/World-University-Rankings/The-Johns-Hopkins-University.html#
@lostaccount I have never gotten any feedback about JHU CS being good. Please stop using stupid rankings like Times Higher Education and Shanghai Ranking to back up your reasoning. It is idiotic.
Being surprised that others do not see Brown CS as being less strong than CS at the others listed just shows your ignorance, @lostaccount. (I don’t know much about Brown engineering).
I wouldn’t say that the research-based rankings are stupid. They are what they are and matter more for grad school, but I do agree with the sentiment that using rankings without knowing the criteria they use or being able to tie in why those criteria are important to undergrad education is idiotic.
And yes, the elite privates benefit from being selective and getting good inputs. But that’s true for UPenn and Columbia as well. So explain why both of them do worse than Brown in the outputs-based LinkedIn rankings that I posted.
BTW, my understanding is that JHU CS isn’t bad. JHU is very grad-school-focused, however.
@lostaccount is voluntarily offering you advice and guidance. “idiotic” and “stupid” seems a bit harsh.
Nevertheless, best of luck with the waitlists. If you have to attend Brown, I think it’s a good place to transfer from. Given their strong internship, job and grad school placement, Brown should also be strong with transfer placement. The faculty is well-connected and very undergrad-focused and goes to bat for their undergrads.
Also, at Brown you’ll have the freedom to craft your curriculum to best correspond with the core and/or general studies requirements of your target school.
You might want to look at the CV’s of the Brown CS profs for overlaps with your target school, and reach out to those profs to learn about the differences between the programs. For example, Andy van Dam the founder of Brown’s CS program holds a PhD from Penn. Also, you could look at the CV’s of your target school Profs for similar overlaps and reach out to them as well - it might help to make some connections with your target school.
Good Luck
Here’s van Dam and a few other Brown profs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=107&v=GX1LXeWKTGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBvsMiTR38M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aNp6bJCAhU