Transferring to Stanford and Ivies with a 2.0?

<p>First of all according to that article he only screwed up during middle school, his transformation apparently began in high school so you don’t know for a fact that his grades weren’t great then, in fact he was taking some pretty challenging courses and doing well. The kid even graduated with an associates which means he certainly wasn’t dicking around.</p>

<p>Second of all THAT IS ONE PERSON OUT OF THOUSANDS. That’s the thing you people don’t get, you see one person get in so you automatically assume that you are going to follow in their footsteps. </p>

<p>I’m only trying to make you guys see things realistically, don’t waste your time on all of this. If you want to apply go for it but it’s not the end of the world for you to not graduate from Stanford. Why not find a school like JHU or WUSTL that you actually have a reasonable shot of getting into? </p>

<p>Stop attaching your own self-worth to what school you graduate from, it’s a really sad thing to see.</p>

<p>jw, you seem to be the most pessimistic person on these forums. It seems as if you want to help, but you are helping the wrong way. I know you are going to say that you only want the realistic view(which you already are doing). It wont help his confidence if you say that his chances are like winning the lottery. We can all agree that Stanford is a long shot, but we should not tell him to stop trying. My brother had a 1.4 throughout high school, went to a community college, and is now attending Pepperdine. My other brother is attending Temple after “dicking around” in high school as well. Both went to “dreaded” community colleges but came out happy. All I am trying to say jw is that your pessimism towards his goals are pretty immature, in some sense. Stop trying to bring his hopes down. </p>

<p>Anyways, iwantprestige, don’t give up, it is a long shot(I would know because I had a pretty bad HS record myself). And also, many other schools will give you prestige as long as you are happy there. All in all, don’t give up but remember that your chances of getting in to a school with that prestige are low.</p>

<p>Just keep working hard,don’t procastinate,realise your weaknesses,you’ll end up fine. Just don’t give up. Hope for the best, expect the worst.</p>

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    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; 
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;..............

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<p>Parts from a peom by Rudyard Kipling.</p>

<p>there’s a difference between being pessimistic and realistic which you obviously do not grasp g3rry. If the kid wants to talk about applying to schools that he actually has a shot at and has a valid reason to transfer to then I’d be the first to offer encouragement; look at my previous posts if you don’t believe me.</p>

<p>This kid spending the next two years pining for the prestige of an elite school that is going to see right through his transfer essay is a very bad idea. The time would be much better spent aiming for a school he actually has a shot at. </p>

<p>This board coddles dreamers and prestige-wh*res way too much. I’m all for following your dreams if it’s for the right reasons. Being jealous of your friends and desiring to tell people “I went to Stanford” at cocktail parties is not for the right reasons. </p>

<p>Good luck wherever you apply and hopefully over the next year or so you will gain a little perspective and realize that there are a lot of schools that can suit your needs better than Stanford.</p>

<p>lol jw, if you look at my previous posts I was wondering if I should apply to schools like JHU, WUSTL, and Emory but apparently you ignored that. </p>

<p>Anyway thank you everyone else for being supportive, i know that I probably won’t get in and I am mentally prepared to get the rejection letters two years from now (lol).</p>

<p>Since I didn’t perform well in high school due to spending time doing research. Should my reasons for transferring be about expanding research horizons? Do you think its a good idea if I researched the SPECIFIC research opportunities, internships, and programs?</p>

<p>stop treating all of this like it’s a game you can win. Only expand your “research horizons” if that’s what you want to do, if you’re doing anything because you think it will make your application look better they will see right through it. </p>

<p>Get the best grades you can while studying what you love, don’t obsess about this, you have two years before you’re going to be applying.</p>

<p>there is also a difference in being realistic, and just trying 2 tell someone they have no chance at all.</p>

<p>Well sometimes “no chance at all” is 99% accurate, in the case of >1% admission rates.</p>

<p>I don’t think anybody’s trying to hurt anybody else’s feelings when they say things like that. We come to these websites for guidance, if you just want to be reassured call mom or whoever really loves the crap out of you. </p>

<p>Iwantprestige, don’t give up. I had a gpa that was a shade (JUST A SHADE) lower than yours. I haven’t successfully transfered anywhere yet because it’s only been a year, but I’ve maintained a 4.0 and did some pretty awesome things at my CC. Apply to those extremely high reach schools. Who knows? Stranger things have in fact happened, but I do think you need a reality check in the “What’s a reach?” category. I know you don’t want to hear this, but let’s look at it this way, Penn’s (ranked #5) transfer admission rate is roughly 14%. JHU’s transfer admission rate is about 9%, Emory’s is 26%, and WUSTL’s is 20%. Applying to JHU (and to lesser extent Emory and WUSTL) is a lot like applying to an ivy, just without the fancyness. Not to say you stand no chance to get into such schools, but even if you were to get perfect grades in college, you’ll still be at odds.</p>

<p>Good luck. :)</p>

<p>Aren’t recommendations given specific weight though?
I mean I knew this kid at my old high school who had a 3.5 gpa and painfully low SAT scores, but he went straight to Stanford because of his teacher recommendations. </p>

<p>Although transfer admissions are different, I don’t think you’re automatically rejected from the elite schools because of your high school gpa. If anything, I don’t think the admissions officers would rather pick another student who is just as qualified as you, (but w/ a greater high school gpa), if his or her recommendations weren’t as convincing as yours.</p>

<p>It’s the entire package though. So maybe you practically flunked high school, but if you’ve done amazing things afterwards, it’s like a rags to riches story. Your chance is just as great as anyone else’s; it just depends what you do w/ yourself between now and when you apply.</p>

<p>Best of luck to you!</p>

<p>I agree with jwsltn, although it is possible the chances are EXTREMELY HIGHLY UNLIKELY, sorry OP but its gonna be damn near impossible unless you start walking on water, however you still have a shot at top schools, ivy leagues are out of the question though</p>

<p>jwlstn has been pretty much right on this whole post</p>

<p>a point that needs to be made</p>

<p>you can talk about getting a 4.0…EVERY freshman on these forums who is dissapointed with how their college admissions went says they are going to get a 4.0 but it is absolutely meaningless until they actually do</p>

<p>the point is, right now as we speak, you have a 2.0 average…that is all we know for certain…and emory is your “safety” school in case yale and stamford don’t accept you? you need to bring your expectations WAAAY down or else youre setting yourself up for a big dissapointment…start looking at state schools for realistic transfer options</p>

<p>as jwlstn said, if you are looking at the fact that you are not at a prestigous university as a reflection of your personal value, you need to reprioritize your life</p>

<p>I would like to know what school jwlstn is attending?</p>

<p>I’m at UNC and while it certainly wasn’t my top choice I honestly think that I’m better off here in a lot of ways than had I gotten into my first choice. I’m heavily involved in Army ROTC which I would not have been able to do at Uchi (my top choice), the academics are actually more rigorous than I would have thought for a state school, and I will graduate with almost no debt. You could say that I’m just trying to make myself feel better for not getting into an “elite” school, and maybe I am, but there are certainly real benefits to going to a state or lower ranked school, believe it or not.</p>

<p>My point is that prestige isn’t everything; You can get an excellent education almost anywhere, you just have to put more effort into it. If you get into HY or P as a transfer then good on you, but don’t put all your chips on a one out of 3 million shot.</p>

<p>also why was this dead thread resurrected?</p>

<p>iwantprestige,</p>

<p>Do you really think that a name weighs more than what you will actually gain from another school? Learning is a life-long experience, going to an Ivy school doesn’t mean you would have the best education. It is better to be “Learned” than “educated.” Sure you graduated from a pretty named school, but do you actually have something behind that skull?</p>

<p>My top choice for transferring is JHU too, and I have made the initiative to research about the schools I want to apply to. Contacting the school is your best shot to get the specifics on what ‘they’ want. Although the admissions folks will just redirect you to their website, search everything there thoroughly. Research about their admissions rate and see where you can fit best. I believe that the required GPA is a 3.0, but technically it has to be better if you’d have to compete with others who earned GPAs in the 3.75 - 4.0 range.</p>

<p>I’m currently attending a community college and I also became a transient student to a university. I did not like the university’s way of disregarding their students, so I crossed it out of my list. Considering that you are a pre-med student as well, try to find a school where you can actually stand out of the crowd.</p>

<p>Let me know if you need something else. My application for JHU is due soon…</p>

<p>Good Luck! btw, are you in college now? sorry, its probably somewhere in this thread..</p>

<p>OK First off, if you read the Stanford website - they specify that the transfer applicants they accept are often from community college, so clearly a poor high school record doesn’t rule you out. Then again, their acceptance rate is under 2 percent, so the chances of anyone - qualified or not - getting in is highly unlikely. </p>

<p>But honestly, chill out. We all get that getting into any of these schools regular or transfer is hard. I’m at MIT right now -considering a transfer to Yale, Stanford, and Penn (Wharton) - and I was very close to giving up because no one from my town had ever gone to a good school. I worked way harder than any kid should, really dove into my passions, went to one of the best prep schools in the nation, ended up top 10 in my class, and find myself at MIT. So many people, even my parents discouraged me at times - they said their dream for me was the University of Illinois because I had low standardized test scores as a kid - and I never let that stop me. So, stop talking so negatively. I’ll make it clear that you’re largely right. It will be hard as hell - maybe even harder, but - iwantprestige - never let anyone give you ******** like that. If someone ****** says you can’t, try harder and prove him wrong. I know this sounds so stupid and idealistic, but I didn’t let anyone stop me until this point and you shouldn’t either. The only person that can really **** you over is yourself, so don’t let some ****** let you screw yourself over. You “dicked around in high school,” now this is your chance not to dick around. Hopefully, we are both successful and I end up seeing you at Stanford, Yale, or wherever the hell you want to go. Good luck.</p>

<p>yeah.. I agree with cubbies7177… no one can dictate where you can go in life… I can’t believe there are some who just right out smack you in the face with a ‘you’re not good enough’ talk.</p>

<p>I’m not sure if this is allowed, but here is a link to JHU’s forum, you’ll learn a lot about their successful transfer applicants.
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<p>When did anyone say anyone wasn’t good enough? See that’s the problem with you guys, you hear what you want to, anyone who tries to talk straight to you is making a statement on your self-worth. </p>

<p>Cubbies, good for you on getting into MIT unfortunately you don’t know what you’re talking about, the transfer game is much different. You got a bad score on your SAT’s as a kid, big deal, you did something about, worked your ass off and got into a great school. Fortunately for you that early SAT score didn’t matter for your admissions, unfortunately for mr. iwantpeopletothinkimimportantcuzigotoanivy a 2.0 gpa in HS matters a whole hell of a lot, especially at top schools. </p>

<p>You can do whatever you want if you put your mind to it, that is true, but it is almost impossible for anyone to convince HY or S that even though you have a horrible record for the past four years, your one or two good years at a TTT means you can handle the work at their school. A more realistic and reachable goal is to kick ass in college, transfer to a school you have a shot at and go to grad school at Stanford. </p>

<p>Whatever, you guys are going to hold onto this fairy-tale no matter what so go for it.</p>

<p>This thread is a total joke…</p>

<p>unfortunately it’s infinitely more interesting than the “Can I get into x prestigious school b/c I my situation is completely different than the other 600 people who have asked this question” threads"</p>

<p>there’s really not much to interest the post-college/transfer kids here…</p>

<p>Grades are looked at as a line graph. If there’s a huge improvement, then that says something about the person putting in all of his or her effort and striving to be the best. </p>

<p>No one wants to see a negative slope regardless of high GPA.</p>