<p>did anyone transfer to an ivy league with low h.s. stats (i'm looking for a little hope here!)?</p>
<p>For those of us who do have them, will a stellar college record/recs/essay be enough to compensate for it or will it qualify as an automatic rejection?</p>
<p>Will Stanford not even consider my application even if everything else is really good?</p>
<p>I'm freaking out already and I'm not even in college yet!!!!! :(</p>
<p>Please help me!</p>
<p>We would need to know what "really low" hs stats are; when you are planning to apply for transfer, from what school, having taken what courses.</p>
<p>Then we might be able to guess. Which is all we could do.</p>
<p>Do NOT freak out. There are dozens (hundreds) of great colleges beyond the precious few you mention.</p>
<p>Look at the featured one above all the threads. Someone with a 1.4 GPA through high school transferred to USC after 2 years of a CC. Hope is never totally lost. Your chances are never really high, but that doesnt mean you should give up.</p>
<p>Just how "low" are your hs stats? A stellar SAT score might help balance things out more.</p>
<p>i got 3.5 uw and im transferring to school of engineering @ penn.
hope that helps</p>
<p>my h.s. gpa was around a 2.0 with the toughest rigor (yea I know thats really low and i'm not here weep about it).</p>
<p>What I want to know is that will Stanford, Ivies, JHU, Berkeley, or Chicago not even consider my application? Or will they take my application and try to put me in the worst possible light? </p>
<p>My reason for the number is that I spent all of 10th, 11th, and most of 12th grade doing research at RPI. I was so engrossed into the research I was doing that I overlooked my schoolwork. I published in one of Euorpe's most prestigeous scientific journals and I explained this in my essays but it didn't carry over.</p>
<p>I will be attending Clarkson University in potsdam NY pursuing molecular biology. </p>
<p>I'm really in a deep depression here guys and I need some help. I'm not even in college yet and I feel as though I have already gotten the rejection letters. :( </p>
<p>There's plenty of advice here, I think I know what to do (good grades, great recs, great essays, great ec's...) </p>
<p>I need some motivation!</p>
<p>On the one hand you've always got a chance as long as you have good test scores and are near perfect in college. That way, you can really show your true potential.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the reality is that very few people, even those with stellar stats in both high school and college get into those schools. They're prestigious and selective for a reason; only a small fraction of students are lucky enough to be admitted. Not everyone is cut out for the Ivies. </p>
<p>That being said, while you certainly have a chance (assuming a 4.0, great recs, test scores, and essays, etc.) I wouldn't be hoping for too much. </p>
<p>The truth is, there are a lot of great schools out there even if they don't have the name or top of the charts reputation of the ones you mention. What I don't understand is why so many people absolutely dread settling for any school whose name they won't be able to drop in conversation to impress people. </p>
<p>I understand wanting to apply to the Ivies and all, but I don't understand this Ivy or doom kind of attitude. College is what you make it. The fact that you already feel like your in a "really deep depression" (I hope for humanity's sake that this is just hyperbole) about this does not bode well for your college experience next year.</p>
<p>Do your best, good luck, and have some desirable safeties in mind. That's all anyone can do.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, you might want to look into transferring as a junior, or spring semester sophomore. It's hard to make up for four years of poor performance with 3 months of great performance.</p>
<p>Coming from someone who had an almost perfect college record and great essays, recs, and a stellar interview(at Uchicago) I would say that your chances are EXTREMELY slim.</p>
<p>The only top school I really applied to was Chicago EA, I was denied outright and pretty much everyone else that didn't have a stellar college record on CC was too. I'm not complaining because I'll be at UNC next fall, a school which I've fallen in love with but I'm just letting you know that your chances are VERY slim.</p>
<p>Do not spend months fretting over applications to the top schools like I did. Apply if you want but realize that you are probably not going to get into any of them. Keeping up that hope is fine but your time will be better spent on other stuff, believe me.</p>
<p>I wouldn't even apply to Stanford, honestly unless you have some kind of great hook. Kids with perfect grades from HS and college gpas at ivies get denied there all the time for transfer. Shoot for Cornell (especially CALS if it fits your major) Brown, Wustl and similar schools that are known to take a lot of transfers with bad HS records. </p>
<p>Yale, Stanford, Dartmouth, and most of the other top elite schools are a waste of time and money but apply if you absolutely feel you need to.</p>
<p>I wanted to prove people in my school wrong. I wanted to prove to them that I was capable and intellegent by going to a top school. <em>sigh</em> I just saw some people who I know are going to Cornell, and when they saw me, they started to make fun of me behind my back and laugh (I overheard them) "wow he's stupid!" and "he sucks at life!!!". I wanted to prove these people wrong. My freind's dad who was an admissions officer also said that I have no chance to transfer.</p>
<p>I think its time that I started high school over again, i can't take it anymore of being in the bottom. I must be at the top, i just need to start my life over again and not screw up.</p>
<p>Any suggestions? noose, poison, jumping of a building?</p>
<p>hold on one sec,
while WUSTL and Chicago are more "transfer-friendly" this is far from saying that someone with a 2.0 in high school has a shot. Simply put, it'd be near impossible to transfer there even with a stellar college record. I'm also not sure that Brown is known to take "many applicants with bad h.s. records"...</p>
<p>Even so, I'd work your ass off in the fall and give these schools a shot. I'd also think about your reasons for transferring aside from "Zomg! Ivy!"</p>
<p>What the **** man.</p>
<p>1) If you want to prove people wrong then don't let their criticisms define you. Live your life for yourself, not for what other people make it into. I can understand how hearing those kind of things would hurt, but if those kids are pathetic enough to say things like that, then I personally wouldn't care much about anything they said. I'm so fed up with people judging one another based on what school they got into. If you think that is at all a suitable measure of your value as a person then you've got an awful lot to learn in life. </p>
<p>2) If you want to be at the top, I understand that. Sometimes greatness is all we think we have to live for. It's sad, but I've been there before and I know how it feels. But if you want to be great, you're in need of an attitude shift my friend. Great people don't let other peoples criticisms determine who they are, or dissuade them from following their actual dreams. Figure out what you want in life, and work your ass off to get it. Oh, and getting into an Ivy to prove your worth as a person is not a real life goal, sorry. If you want it badly enough and you put the work in, things will turn out eventually. Life certainly does NOT end when they hand you your undergraduate degree, and all the kids who obsess over how prestigious their institution is have a rude awakening in store for them when they figure this out. </p>
<p>3) That last little cry for help was unnecessary and offensive. This world we live in is a cut throat place, and no one is going to take pity on you. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something to change your situation. Sorry if this comes off as insensitive, but I just had a friend attempt suicide and another one die last summer because of a depression induced drug overdose. If you really are considering suicide, then get off this stupid message board and go talk to your family.</p>
<p>re-read my post clay, I most certainly didn't say that Chicago is transfer friendly, in fact I said the opposite. WUSTL is way easier to get into that UC for the most part. There was a kid on here that got in with a bad HS record and one semester of college.</p>
<p>I got denied there even though I had better stats than him. It really didn't bother me much because I had decided that even if I got in I wouldn't attend my essays there were really generic too.</p>
<p>I never said that Brown took a lot of transfers with a bad hs record but every year there is at least a few on CC that do get in with a mediocre hs record. </p>
<p>Also, quit it with the pity party OP. There are still plenty of great schools that you have a good chance of getting into. Stop letting other people's opinion of you affect who you are. Had I applied myself in high school I would have likely gotten into an Ivy or comparable school but you know what? I didn't and I'm perfectly happy and grateful that I'm going to be attending UNC next fall even though certain arrogant prestige whores would think less of me because I don't go to Princeton or Harvard.</p>
<p>Stop trying to live your life based on what other people have done or think you should have done.</p>
<p>You guys are absolutley right. My previous comments were completley uncalled for and please accept my humble apologies for the very rude and irrational behaviour i displayed. I don't know what came over me that moment. </p>
<p>Anyway I probably won't get in to my dream schools but it won't deter me from applying. I know there is a remote chance, but still a chance. </p>
<p>I have realized that there are alternatives for me if I don't go where i want to, that is if I get rejected from them two years down the line, i'll just open up a coffee shop and try to be happy :).</p>
<p>again my deepest apologies, I shouldn't have said that and I am very sorry.</p>
<p>Don't worry about it. I've been known to throw my words around pretty carelessly, so I know that it happens. Apology accepted. </p>
<p>I was probably a little harsh, so I apologize for that. </p>
<p>In any case, I'm glad your attitude is starting to change. Best of luck, it seems like your on a better path now.</p>
<p>Why do you still have that elite school or nothing attitude? I think that anyone who truly applies themselves can get just as good an education at a good public school as an average kid might get at an Ivy.</p>
<p>Education should be the main priority here, you still haven't got off of the mindset that only the elite schools give you a good education which is most certainly not true.</p>
<p>Why do we think that the prestige of the school is somehow related to our own self worth? </p>
<p>Supindy if you're really that brilliant as to have been published in one of Europe's most prestigious journals, than I feel you can just as easily find a way to show that wherever you go. However, since this thread is about transferring, than I will tell you... With a 2.0 it will most likely take you more than a semester's worth of 4.0's to make up that deficit. I think your best shot is waiting 18 months and applying again after you've successfully received 17/17 A's or 17/18 or 16/17 or some ridiculous high GPA. Of course you'd probably have to do all the small things that go along with this, SATs SAT IIs, EC's,w/e.</p>
<p>Finally, I mean this in the most comforting way possible but I really do believe it is in your best interest to gain some sort of personality that can show you as who you are instead of this semi-neurotic person we currently have the pleasure to encounter. Seriously though, it would help if you could convey with the help of your essays, a maturation process started by a rejection from many top tier schools and ending with a realization that those schools are no longer a necessity but just an easier and better funded route to success. Show your personality through your essays and tie both your failures and your successes into your path to rebirth and maybe -- just maybe.....</p>
<p>I know where you are coming from...I just got into Cornell and was waitlisted at Stanford with very low hs stats. I had a 3.3 GPA (weighted) and a 1790 on the SAT. I attended community college the last two years and worked for a mediator at a law firm. I spoke with a former admissions officer at Stanford and he said that if you are transferring, it is important to work for someone within your field. As for transferring to Stanford (rate 1.5%), it is near impossible because students from California are supposedly given priority. Berkeley will be near impossible too because California community college students are given priority after they complete the IGETC plan. If you would want to attend Cornell, your best bet would be to attend a NY community college because of the agreement between Cornell and the state. As for Penn, Dartmouth, and Yale, I have no advice because I was denied...</p>