Triple Major In Music ECON & PSYCH?

<p>So...I'm a senior in HS & I really want to make a career in the music industry as a musician, music producer, A&R, or even a lawyer! I don't have enough theoretical background to get into a music school or conservatory, but maybe by sophomore year I could get admitted to a music major! I play piano, despite lagging theoretical applications, I have a great ear for popular music (including jazz). My plan was to double major in economics and psychology and inch my way into the music industry by junior year or early senior year (all the colleges I'm applying to are in good cities for musicians). If that didn't work out I could still get a job with a company by graduation. This was the plan up until the other day when I went to the Jazz Gallery in NY and realized how much education goes into this whole music thing. </p>

<p>So here's my question.</p>

<p>Should I go ahead and double in economics and psychology and learn everything I need to know about music and the industry on my own? What should I do to attain the professional skill level of a music producer, or composer?</p>

<p>Should I drop either econ or psych and pick up music? (I can't drop both, just in case I wanna try grad school, lol)</p>

<p>Or should I triple major in econ, psych and music? Is that as difficult as it sounds?</p>

<p>Wow, you are ambitious!</p>

<p>It seems like at least half the people who are interested in being some sort of a music major explore double majors. My son and I also looked into the double major thing. Straight-up, it would be a great thing to do, but double majoring with music is not nearly as practical as many other majors.</p>

<p>The problem with music is that most Bachelor of Music programs are exceptionally intensive in music, with 75% (at liberal arts colleges) up to close to 100% (at at conservatories) of the curriculum is music, which leaves virtually no electives towards any other major.</p>

<p>Double majoring in Economics and Psych would be fairly easy, but adding a BM degree to BA’s in Econ and Psych would likely be overwhelming. In the same amount of time it would take to do all three majors, you could have likely gotten a bachelors degree PLUS a masters degree.</p>

<p>Piano is probably the hardest instrument to get accepted into a BM program with. It’s great that you play piano, but colleges are over-run with piano students who have been taking piano since they were 4 years old. </p>

<p>As far as lawschool, most law school applicants are either history or English or poli science majors. That actually may work to their disadvantage because many lawschools actively seek out what they call “non traditional” majors. So any of your three areas of interest would be a great background for law school, as long as you have great grades and a good LSAT score. If you can combined those three interests, then all the better.</p>

<p>The great thing about college is that you can get really creative with your curriculum, especialy if you have some AP/Clep credit or if you are willing to do summer schools.</p>

<p>Since you don’t seem that you are that interested in music performance or teaching music, you may want to consider a BA in music or a minor in music instead of a BM. The BA in music is not nearly as concentrated in music, and is better suited for a double major.</p>

<p>There are also Music Industry and Music Business degree programs that focus a little less on music performance and a little more in either music production or business. One possibility may be a Music Business/Econ double major (since some classes may overlap) with a minor in psycology. Or an econ major with a music business minor.</p>

<p>Most minors only take 15-25 credit hours (depending on the college and specific minors). At my son’s school, most minors are only 18 credit hours. You may want to consider a BA in any one of the three fields you are interested in, plus a minor, or possibly even a couple of minors if your college will allow it. But be aware, not all colleges offer minors. One of the colleges my son applied at highly encourages BA students (not BS or BM) to double major, but does not offer minors at all.</p>

<p>The college I went to did not have a stand alone Economics program, so I was a Business Admin student with a concentration in Economics and Finance, and that’s exactly how my diploma reads (Bachelor of Science in Business Administration with concentration in Economics/Finance). But many colleges do offer a BA in economics.</p>

<p>And just a note about job outlooks. Psyc majors are a dime a dozen. Basically a high percent of students who don’t have any particular interest end up majoring in psyc. A BA in Psycology really doesn’t qualify you to do anything other than to go to grad school. It’s similar with economics. Having a bachelors degree in economics doesn’t make you a economist any more than having a bachelors in psychology makes you a psychologist. In either field, even a masters is barely acceptable - you really need to go for the PhD to find work in that field. A relative of mine majored in psychology, she has only had two jobs in her life, the first one was as a teachers assistant (making close to minimium wage), the second was as a bank teller (also making close to minimum wage). Her daughter just graduated from college with a psychology degree and has not been able to find a job, she has now gone back to school to be a pharmacy technician.</p>

<p>Our local community college has a “university transfer program” in which all classes are guaranteed to transfer to any in-state university. It may be possible to get an associate in one of your three fields, then transfer somewhere to finish your bachelor(s) in a different field. </p>

<p>Some colleges offer some version of a “performance certificate”. This is basically just a piece of paper that indicates that the college thinks your are good enough on a particular instrument to play professionally. The only requirements are to take the “performance level” applied music class for that instrument for 8 semesters, plus some recietals - no other music classes are required. You do have to audition for this program, and you do have to play as well as the performance majors that they accept.</p>

<p>My son’s college also offers a minor in “music entrapanureship”, and I believe the minor is open to all majors. Two of the classes are taught by the school of business and four are music specific. Something like this would be a good cross over for Economics, especially since one of the classes is an introductory economics class (that all econ and business majors have to take anyway).</p>

<p>Just get creative with your interests, it would be great if you could somehow combine all three. Just some of the options:</p>

<p>1) Double Major (I really think that a triple major would be too much)
2) Double Major with a minor
3) Single Major with one or two minors (if allowed)
4) Associate degree in one or two of the fields, from a Jr. College, and then transfer to complete bachelors
5) Concentrate on just one bachelors in either econ or psyc, and just take some music classes as electives
6) Major or double major in econ/psyc, plus a music performance certificate</p>

<p>Again, the biggest thing that I have against multiple majors is the extra time that they may take. You can get a Masters in many subjects in a year and a half - it just seems to me that a bachelors plus a masters would be more valuable than a double major bachelors. Hey, if you are willing to go to summer school, particularly at an inexpensive community college, then by all means, get all the bachelors degrees and minors or associate degrees you can - just do it in no more than 8 regular semesters plus 5 summer schools.</p>

<p>Anyhow, sorry about the length of the post, I just wanted to get all of my thoughts out there.</p>

<p>Wow! That was an impressive post imagep! </p>

<p>thedandy – if you are serious and passionate about having a career as a performer, then it is probably best to drop one of the other majors and do a jazz or contemporary performance major (assuming this is the style you are pursuing). </p>

<p>If you are merely trying to have a local career on the side, then I would certainly not triple major; just stick with with the econ and psych. I have known people who actually went all the way through with their triple major and thought at the end of it that the quality of their education was greatly decreased. </p>

<p>Just my $.02</p>

<p>imagep, thanks for that in depth response!</p>

<p>The point i’m getting from you both is definetly don’t triple major. good, because i really want to have a life in college! </p>

<p>one of the schools im looking at is loyola u in chicago, their website says its as easy as declaring yourself a music major to get into the program. You guys think its worth it to major in music there? Even if the program isnt all that good, at least you have the music world of chicago right?</p>

<p>Maybe. But I think a school like Belmont or UCLA would better fit your needs (unless you don’t think you can get in). I would apply to both the above schools because their academics AND contemporary music programs are tops. Certainly a school like Loyaola U in Chicago might be a nice back-up (musically-speaking). But I think you should definitely apply to two or three auditioned programs as well.</p>

<p>Thanks for so much for the responding all of you. Feel free to give additional suggestions!</p>