<p>Our daughter is interested Tulane and U of Miami . Her likely interests are Communications (Advertising or Public Relations) and Business (Marketing). Please comment generally on the merits of Tulane vs Miami and specifically on these programs, if possible. I am also curious about their relative reputations in the public at large.</p>
<p>These are similar schools in many ways, but also have some key differences. I wouldn’t focus at all on the possible majors, both schools will provide a good education in these areas. Also, 70% of undergrads change their major at least once. Much better to look at the fit.</p>
<p>Are finances an issue? What are your daughter’s stats (GPA UW, AP courses, SAT and/or ACT scores)? Does she care about sports, Greek scene, things like that? Knowing these things will help in making suggestions and/or comments.</p>
<p>Our daughter is interested in a school of 5-10 K students that will challenge her academically. Reasonable class sizes would be helpful. Both of these colleges will be something of a reach. She hopes to remain active on club or intramural sports. Competitive DI teams are an interest, but not a deal breaker. Currently, she is ambivalent about the Greek scene, though this may change. A genuine campus in or near a city is attractive. Social, entertainment and other activities on and off campus are critical, but she is likely to be a moderate partier. Finally, the relative reputations of Tulane vs UM may have more significance when applying for a job or to grad school. What do you see as the key differences between the two colleges? Thanks</p>
<p>I know nothing about U Miami, but in comparing Tulane to UC Berkeley S2 felt that Tulane would offer the same or better likelihood of gaining admission to a top law school. He felt the class size and the interesting curriculum choices combined with the emphasis on community service made the choice of Tulane over UCB an easy one.</p>
<p>Tulane is roughly an academic peer of Miami. Miami is more difficult to gain admission to than Tulane but is also more fun, in a better city, has better sports and more school spirit. Tulane would be a reasonable back up especially if sports are not an interest and she has an iffy high school gpa (i.e. below 3.5) but decent test scores. In fact, Tulane is probably the most common safety school for those who want to attend Miami. </p>
<p>As far as Tulane and Berkeley, that is clearly a bad decision. Berkeley is far and away better than Tulane.</p>
<p>Not correct. U Miami’s admisison rate is about twice Tulane’s, just for starters. Not going to continue to respond to the ■■■■■.</p>
<p>SJUHawk - Your incessant Tulane bashing posts always give me a good laugh.</p>
<p>The admission rate is skewed by the aggressive marketing to unqualified and otherwise uninterested high school students. The free application and email spam has increase the number of applications. The low acceptance rate is deceptive marketing. Tulane accepts more students than Miami to fill a 25% smaller class. Last year, Tulane accepted 10,565 students to fill a class of 1,502. Miami accepted 9,700 to fill a class of 1,905. </p>
<p>The average adjusted gpa of enrolled freshman at Tulane this year is a 3.49 compared to Miami’s adjusted gpa of 4.2. Tulane has a selectivity rating of a 94 (out of 99) according to the Princeton Review compared to a 96 at Miami.</p>
<p>Gabby, I am not bashing Tulane. I am simply telling the truth. I try to give a truthful and dispassionate analysis unlike the boosters you see on the Tulane board. That is why I always give a source. I am not providing opinion, simply consolidating facts.</p>
<p>JYM: please don’t call me names.</p>
<p>You are what you are, SJU. Your choice.</p>
<p>SJU, I reported you to the admins. Hopefully they will remove your factually incorrect, negative postings and ban you if you continue.</p>
<p>What a surprise. SJUHawk has something to say in this Tulane thread too. Thank you Johnny Utah for reporting. This is getting old and annoying.</p>
<p>There is no justification for that type of behavior on this site. It’s evident that this person enjoys getting people worked up, as he/she has insulted numerous other schools and people (UNC students are banjo pickers, McGill women are ugly, etc). The admin team here usually does a great job of keeping this type of garbage off of these boards. Hopefully they’ll handle this situation as well.</p>
<p>Mine have been the best posts on the Tulane board. There is so much shamless pushing for people to attend Tulane. I am being real. Everything I have posted is true so there is no violation of the rules. Just because you don’t like my posts doesn’t mean I am in violation of the user agreement. If anything, calling my posts garbage or calling me a ■■■■■ is grounds for discipline. If there is something that I posted that was inaccurate, prove me wrong. </p>
<p>Finally, people come to this site to learn about colleges. They aren’t here to get the hard sell from alumnae. I am telling people what I know. Some of you are pushing to get people to attend. I guess my honesty is hurting the sales pitch?</p>
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the exact definition of a ■■■■■. Hope your reporting of these posts works, Johnny Utah. Hope you alerted the mods to all those other insulting posts in other threads as well so that they have the reference point you mention. Thank you.</p>
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SJUHawk - You said to point out something untrue if you posted it, so here we go. Tulane reports unweighted GPA (not adjusted as you call it), Miami doesn’t. Not only do I know this for a fact from a personal conversation with both Earl Retif and one of the admissions counselors, but all the Tulane application requirements for various scholarships and programs specifically cite unweighted GPA as the criteria. OK, you won’t believe that as evidence, so use common sense. Do you really believe there is a difference of 4.2 - 3.5 between Miami and Tulane when Tulane’s SAT mid 50% range is 40-50 points higher in CR and Writing, and a little higher in Math? That defies any sense at all. And since PR doesn’t bother to correct these self reported GPA’s but uses them as reported in the selectivity calculations, along with other bogus parameters (number of OOS students = selective??), that number is totally useless. But please, give us your evidence that PR does in fact know these schools are all reporting weighted GPA’s. Of course then you would have to believe that Miami has a higher average GPA than Princeton, who reports theirs as 3.88. Can’t wait to hear you spin that. Zing!!</p>
<p>PS: Or how about Penn at 3.83? Columbia at 3.9? Johns Hopkins at 3.68? Had enough? Either these schools are not what they are hyped up to be or Miami is quite the hidden gem. Or you were just (gasp!!)… wrong.</p>
<p>I know I am piling on, but you just love evidence so much.</p>
<p>Emory - 3.84
Vanderbilt - 3.7
Carnegie Mellon - 3.62
UCLA - 4.22 (just to show Miami is not alone)
USC - 3.7
Michigan - 3.75</p>
<p>Everyone else that was in the USNWR top 25 did not report an average GPA (at least not on PR which is what you are using), so only UCLA reported a weighted one. Makes it pretty obvious that Tulane’s is unweighted also. So all that hogwash about Tulane’s 3.49 not being very impressive was just that, uninformed hogwash. You are so anxious to run down Tulane, your protests to the contrary notwithstanding, that you are blinded to even thinking things through with a little common sense.</p>
<p>You don’t like their marketing, which leads to a lower % acceptance number and a lower yield. Great. We all get that. You have any other points to make (that are true)? That’s rhetorical, in case you didn’t realize it.</p>
<p>My 2 cents:</p>
<p>Tulane is known to be a little more selective and a little more of an ‘academic’ school. </p>
<p>Miami is larger and has more football prowess, both of which translate into more alumni/networking events.</p>
<p>Tulane is more geographically diverse.<br>
Miami is in a larger market.</p>
<p>Miami might have a stronger communications department but I’m not sure. Tulane could just as easily have the stronger department. I would bet that Miami does in fact have a stronger marketing department. Though my knowledge of marketing between the two is only at Tulane. </p>
<p>Tulane tends to have accomplished marketing majors themselves and my friends that concentrated in Mktg at TU have been highly successful, but I’d argue that is more due to their individual talents, ect. and not so much via what they learned in the department. </p>
<p>Tulane’s business school is well respected but not for its marketing.</p>
<p>I’m not sure that I’d decide on a school specifically for one major. I myself tried a couple before finding one that both challenged and highly interested me. </p>
<p>Best of luck! Any specific questions about differences between the two?</p>
<p>Wrong again Chemist! Tulane reports WEIGHTED GPA. The premise of your whole argument is off.</p>
<p>And as far as Benetode’s comments, consider the source. Tulane is “known to be” more selective and more academic? Known by whom? Of course Benetode a Tulane graduate like fallenchemist thinks this is true. The one person posting here with no affiliation to either school (me) says otherwise. So does the Princeton Review!</p>
<p>OMG, that is too funny. Please, SJUHawk, prove to us that Tulane uses weighted GPA. You are big on proof and citations, so by all means show us. At the same time, please explain the results of all those other schools showing a lower GPA than Miami. Now you just look like a total Tulane hater, if you can ignore that much evidence.</p>
<p>I have to admit, I didn’t think even you would have the guts to ignore such obvious proof. Your credibility, what little there was, is now completely gone with anyone that can read these posts.</p>
<p>I got so tired of SJUHawk making things up that I called Princeton Review. 212-874-8282. I talked to one of their data people, Steve Aglion. He said, and I quote “We always ask the schools for the unweighted GPA, but obviously some don’t comply. However we do not touch the data they send us but report it as is.” When I pointed out that they use GPA in their selectivity index and wouldn’t that cause those schools to be artificially high, he said “Yes, I suppose it would. I will look into that, but frankly there isn’t much we can do about it. We never intended these things to be the last word in information regarding the schools, but only a starting point. I always tell parents and students to go to the school’s web site to get the latest statistics.” I then specifically asked him about the Tulane GPA and he said “That one looks like they definitely complied with our instructions to send us the unweighted GPA. A school of Tulane’s standing would have an unweighted GPA in that range.”</p>
<p>So SJUHawk, you can quit dispensing false information now (I do love the exclamation points and all caps to try and make yourself right by just being “louder”), and also quit pushing the Princeton Review selectivity index. It uses uncomparable data to calculate the number. As PR themselves said, they do no correcting of the numbers sent to them by the universities. Call him up if you don’t believe me.</p>