<p>In terms of my major, though I do not like math, I am very good at it. I’m in AP Calculus and Physics and wouldn’t mind using math if it were applied. When I said I disliked science, I only meant I do not want to be premed.</p>
<p>For those of you who are suggesting schools off my list, why those schools? Stanford, I know, is known as the Ivy on the West Coast, but how do Cal and UVA compare? I know Cal is having trouble with budget cuts and I truthfully don’t know much about UVA.</p>
<p>Being an hour away from home isn’t such a bad thing. I started college an hour from home. A high school teacher advised me not to go home for the first time until Thanksgiving. (I made an exception to go home to vote; but otherwise followed her advise.) I found that the physical distance was enough to give me the emotional space to feel I had crossed a threshhold by going away to college, even though it wasn’t that far. It was the psychic distance that mattered, not the physical distance. </p>
<p>Parents who call or email all of the time can make it feel like you haven’t left home, even if you’re thousands of miles away.</p>
<p>FiveUnderPar- I’ve been around awhile myself, and am quite familiar with Mom2CollegeKids. Thanks for the opinion, though, since you are clearly “in the know”.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t bank on that Ivy acceptance without a likely letter (not all coaches will give one) or the final admission decision. I know Ivy recruited athletes who were hugely disappointed.</p>
<p>I would pick UVA over Cal, except for the weather and the neat city environment of Cal. So much depends on your sport, though. In the end, use the broken leg test and pick the school you would love even if you could never play your sport again.</p>
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<p>RML, do we really need to get the actual data out … again? What does a lot mean? A few every year for the past century? Because it is really not that high a number as long as turning down includes to be accepted first at both schools and then attend Cal, and this turning down Stanford. </p>
<p>For the record, numbers provided to you have clearly indicated that just a handful of students turn down Stanford for Cal. Out of about 1700 students, that number was between 5 and 12. </p>
<p>Why do insist on spewing such non-sense?</p>
<p>What sport and what major?</p>
<p>It is certainly possible to do a time consuming sport and a time consuming major, although it would certainly take a lot of time management discipline.</p>
<p>Article about Berkeley engineering students in sports (including a football player): [Uncommon</a> in every way: Engineers in intercollegiate sports — UC Berkeley College of Engineering](<a href=“http://innovations.coe.berkeley.edu/vol4-issue10-dec10/athletes]Uncommon”>http://innovations.coe.berkeley.edu/vol4-issue10-dec10/athletes)</p>
<p>Note that Andrew Luck of Stanford is an architectural design major:
[url=<a href=“http://www.pac-12.org/ABOUT/News/Pac12News/tabid/905/Article/119316/marecic-mohamed-highlight-pac-10-all-academic-football-team.aspx]Marecic”>http://www.pac-12.org/ABOUT/News/Pac12News/tabid/905/Article/119316/marecic-mohamed-highlight-pac-10-all-academic-football-team.aspx]Marecic</a>, Mohamed Highlight Pac-10 All-Academic Football Team > Pac12 > Pac-12 News<a href=“note,%20however,%20that%20%22hard%22%20or%20time%20consuming%20majors%20appear%20to%20be%20less%20common%20among%20the%20football%20players%20than%20among%20other%20students”>/url</a></p>
<p>All of the schools in your list are excellent academically; unless you end up wanting to major in something not offered or anomalously weak at the school you attend, you should not have to be disappointed academically at any of them. If you have an idea of what you may major in, you may want to see if any are particularly strong in the subject(s) you are considering.</p>
<p>^^ sorry xiggi, I have to correct you:</p>
<p>Out of about 2400 admits, the number is between 5 and 12. The number of cross-admits of Stanford/Cal is about 650 students each year.</p>
<p>Just in case RML questions your numbers. :)</p>
<p>I think you’re fine going to Cal or Stanford…I’d choose Stanford personally</p>
<p>No problemo, Ewho, I was using the enrolled student number for Stanford in comparison to the students who turned down Stanford for Cal.</p>
<p>*When originally going into my college search, I told myself that if I fell in love with a school I wouldn’t let money get in the way. *</p>
<p>Well, if you have the money, you can feel that way. If your parents are paying and they won’t pay $200k+ then money would “get in the way.” ;)</p>
<p>But, I didn’t love those schools $200k more than the scholarship schools. There is my dilemma. In the end it will probably be between Stanford, Cal and UVA.</p>
<p>Good thinking. :)</p>
<p>I don’t understand how UVA and Cal are full rides, but Stanford isn’t. Is this a “full head count” Div I sport or not? </p>
<p>What sport is this? (male or female)</p>
<p>mom2collegekids knows that Cal is Berkeley.</p>
<p>Yes…I do know that…</p>
<p>Typo!!! I meant to say: I’m wondering why it’s full ride at Cal but not at STANFORD… but maybe the sport isn’t Div 1 “full head count”…if we knew the sport it would also help.</p>
<p>(as a Calif native, I should shoot myself. lol)</p>
<p>Based on the schools and the possible scholarship differences, this is an equivalency sport. And one that is not too hard to identify if Brown is listed among the better choices.</p>
<p>Fwiw, I would advise the athlete NOT to mention her sport on this forum.</p>
<p>If it’s an equivalency sport, then the OP must be quite good if UVA and Cal are offering free rides. Since she’s OOS for both, that’s a good amount of money (unless OOS rates don’t apply to athletic scholarships??? I don’t know).</p>
<p>jamie - it is a question of playing at Stanford in PAC12, not for one of the other schools. Ivy academics are not superior to Stanford.</p>
<p>Mom2collegekids, you are on a roll. Stanford and Cal are both in California. Only OOS at UVa. :)</p>
<p>^^^^oops, again!</p>
<p>I would definitely pick Stanford if by “substantial” you mean tuition is 75% or more off. </p>
<p>The small class sizes and national attention from recruiters will be well worth the premium. College in California is often like being in your own little island. -.-</p>
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<p>Some athletes may prefer not to play under contract, and thus Ivies would be more desirable for them.</p>
<p>Cal has better academic programs than UVA.</p>
<p>Are you an athlete whose sport will be using Cal’s new Athlete High Performance Center opening early next year? If you haven’t seen it, check it out. The facility is amazing. GO BEARS!</p>
<p>Bay - I highly doubt it if means spending a quarter of a million to go to an ivy vs free education at Stanford.</p>
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<p>Well, excuse the expression, duh. But if the athlete is in the full-ride FA range at say, Harvard, he might prefer to play there without a contract rather than being, excuse the expression, enslaved to a coach at Stanford.</p>