two languages at a time

<p>"That is an intensely competitive environment, where the ability to have only a casual conversation will not get you very far."</p>

<p>My point exactly. If your language skills are going to be of any value, you should be able to speak them FLUENTLY. And I would say that passing the Georgetown proficiency exams is more of a conversational rather than fluency test. </p>

<p>Especially in the case of a language like French, or my language (Spanish), if you want that to be of any value at all you'd better be able to speak it pretty much perfectly because French and Spanish speakers are a dime a dozen. If you want to speak a language that is more difficult, you will have to dedicate a lot of time and energy to it...(even beyond just getting a good grade in the class) but the rewards when you are trying to get a job and being kind of proficient are definitely much higher.</p>

<p>The sense I have gotten from the SFS (I'm just finishing up my first year) is that language study is a means not an ends. The purpose of the language requirement is more of adding to your "toolbox" rather than an ends (ie, let's study languages because we like it). Obviously, it's excellent to learn multiple languages, but you would be doing yourself a disservice (with a view to what the SFS is equipping you to do) by graduating with a toolbox that has a lot of tools but none particularly effective in fixing problems.</p>

<p>Of course, I see everything through the lens of my own future plans, which is to get a job with the government working on development and in-country policy formation (meaning you'd need a pretty good grasp on the language). Plus, I'm more interested in taking a variety of government and regional studies classes and don't really want to sacrifice those for learning a second language.</p>

<p>I know quite a few other people who are less obsessive over their future plans and simply enjoy the opportunity to explore and learn what they want. </p>

<p>My best advice is to mock up a schedule-- try and judge your level of Russian, and whether you'll take Intensive Russian or Intensive French because you're starting that new. And see how that impacts your schedule and how it jives with your own personal goals. Does that make any sense?</p>

<p>Sorry this is prob a really stupid question but do people in FLL have to pass the proficiency exam? Also if you take two languages do you have to pass only one or both exams?</p>

<p>hey Andi, which language do you plan on majoring in at FLL?</p>

<p>If you take two languages in the SFS you only have to take one proficiency exam.</p>

<p>I don't know anything about FLL, sorry. But I would hope if you were majoring in a language a proficiency exam would be no big deal.</p>

<p>do you have to take a placement exam if you've never studied that particular language before? for example, if i never took french, and wanted to start at gtown, would i still take a placement exam? because unless i was a really good guesser with the mc questions, i'd get none right...i'd definitely have to take whatever the first level class is</p>

<p>I'm gonna major in spanish but I still want to continue with french so maybe I'll double major in french and spanish.<br>
Bummer are you in FLL?</p>

<p>gtown girl, nope you just sign up for the elementary/beginning french classes. The only point is to see how much you ACTUALLY learned in high school, if you are continuing a language...</p>

<p>ok yeah that makes sense, but i just wanted to double check...thanks</p>

<p>Andi, yup I'm in FLL too!</p>

<p>I would take a language at the intensive level if at all possible, even if its something like Spanish or french. I'm in the intensive program for Spanish and my proficiency is improving ten-fold. You have more interactions with the teachers because you meet everyday, you really get know your classmates and eventhough there's a lot of work, it really worth it. Our class went out to eat with our teachers for both semesters. GL!</p>

<p>Since someone mentioned taking Chinese earlier, thought I would ask this - is the Chinese @ Georgetown Traditional or Simplified? I know Columbia does Traditional, and I'm hoping that Georgetown does NOT..</p>

<p>it is possible if u take spanish and portuguese at the same time lol</p>