U-Grad Business School to a "Fun" Well Paying Career

<p>""Everyone on these forums say do what you love, don’t worry about the money. I am fine with just “liking” my job and making 100K+ rather than “loving” my job and making 50K or less. "</p>

<p>My favorite hobbies are to sit around play games, and philosophize… but if I chose this as my career because I “love” it, then of course it would be foolish.</p>

<p>My sister has been in the fashion industry in NYC for 30 years and worked with some of the biggest names Perry Ellis, Michael Kors, and others. There’s much more to it than geting a good seat at a fashion show–that’s just where they show the products. Behind the scenes it’s both exciting, creative, and hard work. My sister was always in the technical side selecting fabics in Italy and Asia and figuring out how to actually make what the designer sketched. Then she got to oversee the hand-sewing of the final samples for the shows and was back behind the screens putting a final few adjustments into a dress before it went to the runway. To people in the industry that’s way more exciting than sitting in some seat as a spectator. Nothing creative in that.</p>

<p>It’s much easier to break into with some technical background in making fabrics and patterns. Those people are in demand and more scarce.</p>

<p>thanks for the input esp DrPep and barrons I think I already said that I dot want to go into fashion :slight_smile: but I know that I will like marketing because it is a good mix of creativity and analytical things which seems more me and I can make good money so there’s no problem :wink: but what about when you really want to go into a certain career and your parents think that it is risky, not wise, aka not a doctor?? anyone been in that situation??</p>

<p>you mean your parents think its risky, and not wise to become a doctor?</p>

<p>^No, of course that isn’t what she meant.</p>

<p>You are, of course, not the only one in that boat sandra. However, everyone in that situation faces a different challenge. Some parents will refuse to pay for college if their child goes into a risky career, others will just be worried and turn a blind eye. You have to approach them like a grown up and explain to them what you want to do and how you are going to do it. In reality, most parents just want to make sure you have your head on straight. </p>

<p>Marketing is a fairly safe bet. It is in the Top 5 for “Most Jobs offered by degree”. However I think Marketing is a very easy job to be pigeon holed in. If you are a star you will go really far and have a great life. However, if you do not have a knack for selling your ideas (or if you’re just average) and having your ideas sell to the public you will have a VERY hard time making it out of the cubicle and into the corner office. Of course, it is like this with every field but I can’t tell you how many Freshmen I have seen over the past 3 years going into marketing because “they really liked to be creative,” but they couldn’t sell an idea worth a crap. What I am saying is you seem to be in a very large majority of marketing students who would rather do something else (ie Fashion) but settle for Marketing when you find out how bleak the other field is, but you still want to be “creative”.</p>

<p>^but I thought marketing was a versatile degree since many companies in different fields need marketing specialists?? please correct me if I am wrong but that was one of the draws of a marketing for me… and I believe that average people in most fields dont really go far not just marketing…I feel like I am persuasive and I feel that the communications courses that I may take will enhance that but I will continue to be persistent and time will tell :)</p>

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<p>^real talk. What really turned me off this major was the fact that all my friends consider themselves great marketers…I think every business major does (well…they know how to sell something to themselves at least). Since I’ll eventually start my own business I’d much rather learn aspects of business that I don’t know much about but are still crucial (finance, economics, accounting) and I’ll let my creative side guide the truly great marketers of this world.</p>

<p>~related but still random - the peeps that produced the Toyota hybrid commercials are geniuses</p>

<p>so Orange!..Blue! do you consider a marketing major subpar to the “crucial” aspects of business you described?? dont you think that marketing is crucial to business also??</p>

<p>Sandra, when I wrote this post one comment was in my head:</p>

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<p>This is the mentality I see in the marketing majors that upon graduation are very disatissfied with their work. This is not business, this is a dream. Marketing is NOT about working in an eclectic environment, bouncing creative ideas off each other. It’s the business of how to reach out to the customer base. Depending on your field that can be as simple as making a pretty powerpoint. My very good friend just finished working on a marketing project where thats all they did. I think they may have worked a little in that Mac film editing program. This is actually a pretty creative job for a marketing grad. Another friend has been analyzing reports for 2 weeks to determine what kind of sales this store he works for should have.</p>

<p>Jobs at the Marketing Firms where you lead campaign ads are EXTREMELY competitive and only the VERY best from the best schools land these jobs. I’m not trying to turn you off marketing, but your mentality is VERY common. Marketing isn’t for the people who want a life full of creativity, like you seem to want.</p>

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<p>Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying marketing isn’t a crucial part of business. In fact it’s one of the most important. What really is crucial though is having a broad knowledge about everything business (while also specializing in some area) and since marketing is a subject that comes easily to me I’d rather focus my attention on finance, accounting, economics, strategy, etc. since I know less about this, but still find it interesting. This is coming from the point of view of someone who wants to start a business so I enjoy dabbling in various fields to gain some perspective.</p>

<p>@plscatamacchia: You’re not the only person who has told me this my sister has told me this too that life is not all about glamour and sadly I am learning to accept this but I am willing to work hard at any aspect of business (whether it be marketing) that I choose to pursue and I know that there are different fields of marketing like brand management and marketing research… I know that I may not lead campaign ads straight out of college and that is what work and prior experience is for (which I am willing to work hard for) and no you have not turned me off of marketing :slight_smile: (I liked what DrPep said better thought ;))</p>

<p>@Orange!..Blue!: I know that having a broad knowledge of business is what is important and that is why most undergrad business schools have you take core business courses across the board before or as you are specializing but good luck on starting your business :)</p>

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<p>big firm = big paycheck = stiff competition (for the most part). That doesnt mean you cant easily become a campaign manager at a smaller company. The work would be fun and worthwhile but don’t expect to live a lavish lifestyle at first. Many marketing grads complain about job placement after college compared to their peers.</p>

<p>Assuming you have a genuine interest in marketing the best thing you could do is to continue exploring the career path (through google and talking to local businesses) and look past compensation.</p>

<p>^thanks for the input and I am generally interested in marketing but I dont want to face trouble like other marketing grads that solely did marketing so that’s why I want to also concentrate in management and take some communications courses…with all of that said, I think compensation goes hand in hand with success and I just cant look past it :)</p>

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<p>As long as you have the vision, which you seem to have you’ll be fine. This goes for all fields. When that thick brick wall stands in your way its your vision and knowing that you really want to pursue your career that will help you get past it. Good luck sandra.</p>

<p>anything that is “fun” and “well-paying” does not exist in capitalism. lol</p>

<p>student01 you’re just unhelpful. All of your comments are one sentence and generally negative. You are in high school, what experience do you have that gives you knowledge about college, careers, capitalism, or ANYTHING else you post about? What good advice can you honestly offer here when this sub-forum is about something you have NEVER experienced? I mean my goodness, you use “LOL”. That discredits you automatically. To speak in your language - plz ■■■■. </p>

<p>He is wrong, Marketing can be VERY fun. As well as any other field if you enjoy it. And these fields can yield a GREAT salary. Sandra you seem to have a great grip on reality and I predict you will do well. My final piece of advice would be to take a few art classes. My brother-in-law is a Marketing Director making 300k+ and he majored in art. Being able to have a very creative presentation will pay off huge!</p>

<p>plscatamacchia, please chill out and give up already. i’ve already reported you multiple times across this forum for harassment. and as you may have already noticed, i’ve gladly stopped responding to the subject of your posts.</p>

<p>You’re a senior in high school and you are reporting me for harassment because I often feel your posts are completely false or unnecessary? That in no way is harassment. Grow up, but honestly I think you may be closer to a middle school kid so if that is the case I retract the grow up comment. I mean I hope you are in Middle School, because a Senior still tattling is REALLY sad…</p>

<p>Grow up? Is that really the message YOU are sending out to everybody?

If you really are “grown up” you would be able to control the urge of constantly attacking people on this forum. there are polite ways to tell people they are “wrong” or that you think they are wrong. and look, they are not even insulting you. You’ve basically been stalking me just “waiting” for me to say the “wrong” thing. Please give people here some air to breathe.</p>

<p>yes i may be younger than you, and maybe not as wise, but i still have the right to ask questions without being harassed on a forum.</p>

<p>Wow, you really opened my eyes student01!</p>

<p>So here is what I’ve realized so far…I have a constant urge to attack people. Wait, but this entire thread I’ve been trying to give Sandra helpful advice. Let me check my recent posts…yep just as I thought, you’re the only one I’ve made negative comments to. Yes I’ve had other disagreements, but I would call the comments directed at your more negative because usually you make comments in posts where people are seeking advice that are flat out wrong. And you do this very consistently. </p>

<p>I also need to tell people they are wrong in a better way. Eh, could be true, but it’s not as fun.</p>

<p>I am also stalking you…this one was too funny. You hit the nail on the head. You don’t know what it’s like! All day at work I sit at my desk thinking “Gosh I wonder want student01 is posting about”. Then I come home and search out your posts. I then spend around 2 hours thinking of how I can be mean to you, then I POST! Wait, nope…generally you just happen to post in the same areas as myself and I see prime opportunities to tell you that you are COMPLETELY wrong.</p>

<p>Back to the original point, you’re what…17? And you tattle?</p>