<p>self explanatory.</p>
<p>I would pick Chapel Hill based solely on location. But what are you looking for in a school? I think it depends a little on your personal situation. Are you in-state for either one?</p>
<p>are you a basketball fan or a football fan? if you like basketball better, pick UNC. If you are a football fan, pick U of M.</p>
<p>Seriously, the schools are very similar. UNC probably has better weather. If it comes down to money, pick the cheaper one.</p>
<p>I personally would pick UNC because of the Carolina Covenant, their top merit aid programs (like the Morehead, Robertson, and Cain), plus I've heard the honors program is pretty good. However, I am more of a football fan, but the weather in Michigan would just be too cold for me.</p>
<p>what state do you live in?
for OOS, you are at a disadvantage for UNC
they both give some merit aid, although my feeling is that UNC gives slightly more
UNC superscores the SAT, while Mich does not, so that is why I chose UNC
I get the impression that Mich is by far more numbers-oriented, while UNC values the essays/rec.
both are very large
people have mentioned weather. depends on yourself I guess. I would actually prefer wintry michigan weather
why not do both? do you have time? for Michigan, however, the priority deadline for merit scholarship consideration has passed.
and if you're into sports, i think Michigan has a better football team compared to UNC's basketball team, if it's orthodox to make that comparison</p>
<p>loneranger, the morehead and the cain are the same thing. it's officially the "morehead-cain" scholarship, though most people simply call it the morehead.</p>
<p>JohnC613</p>
<p>I really don't mean to pick on you but......"both are very large"....are you kidding?????</p>
<p>Michigan is "very large"......UNC at approximately 15,000 undergrads has 11,000 fewer undergrads than Michigan....that's like 45 percent smaller....and with a total enrollment of 27,700 versus more than 41,000 at Michigan......UNC is hardly "very large." Ohio State, Michigan and U of Texas are "very large" ....UNC, UVA and U South Carolina are not.</p>
<p>Read the other posts where numerous UNC students discuss how truly small the school really feels....how they seem to know everyone etc....</p>
<p>Have you even visited both schools?</p>
<p>im instate nc. where will one get the better experience academically and overall? opinions please.</p>
<p>leetx: This is just my opinion, but for what it's worth, someone who lives in a state with an outstanding public university system (and that certainly includes the top 5 publics), who chooses to spend the extra money to attend another out-of-state public university, should have really solid reasons for doing so. Michigan is an excellent school, but no more so than UNC, and, as eadad pointed out, it is much, much larger and will be much more expensive, for you. Unless they offered you a full freight scholarship (and UNC did not), or they offered something vastly different in your field of interest that UNC didn't (such as their outstanding music/theatre program), I would have a hard time justifying the cost. </p>
<p>NC students really seem to take for granted what an outstanding and unusual university system UNC, and our flagship school in particular, really is. Read back over some of these threads, and if you haven't already, do some serious research all that UNC-CH can offer you. UNC-CH has become much more competitive, it seems, for in-state students in recent years, so that means more and more top students are choosing to attend. You need to determine why this might be the case.</p>
<p>I will also add that UNC can be as close to home, or as far away, as you choose it to be. While it is not as large as Michigan, it is still ~16,000 undergraduates, so it has the advantage of being relatively small for a public university, yet large enough to be anonymous or to avoid those with whom you went to high school (if that's a concern for you). The academics are top-notch; the study abroad options are amazing; the foreign language offerings are broad and varied; the classes are small enough that you do get to know your professors; and there's so much to do and be involved in on campus. And the sports . . . well, what can I say?</p>
<p>Good luck to you. Again, that was just my 2 cents.</p>
<p>oops...yeah I know, I meant to type Pogue.</p>
<p>Uhm JohnC, this is kinda getting off topic, but I've got to comment on this. I'm not sure where you're getting your info, but UNC's basketball team has been BETTER than U of M's football team the last ten years or so. Maybe over the course of history, U of M has been more successful, but while Ohio State has come to dominate the Big Ten, UNC and Duke still "duke" it out for ACC glory each year. And while U of M is the winningest football program in college football history, UNC is second in basketball only to Kansas, which was the FIRST college basketball program (the first coach was James Naismith himself) and played for 12 seasons before UNC even began play in 1910. So UNC is pretty much the most dominant basketball program in history.</p>
<p>UNC is almost always in the top 5 of the men's basketball polls yearly. They won their last national title in 2005. Michigan hasn't won a title since 1997 (and Nebraska really was the better team that year). They haven't won a consensus national title since 1948. And plus, UNC has made the final four 16 times (I believe only second to UCLA).</p>
<p>So if you're going to pick on the absolute historical dominance of the best sports program, I'd pick UNC.</p>
<p>I know that UMich is an excellent school. I would never go. Take the weather warnings seriously, people. Ever heard of SAD? Ever heard of suicide rates related to the dark and cold?!</p>
<p>omg, are we seriously debating whether michigan football or unc basketball is better? wow.</p>
<p>cloying: i agree with you on the weather, but no need to freak people out with suicide rates, that's sorta ridiculous. It's not like Mich is known for that by any means lol.</p>
<p>Factors I would consider: UNC has better weather. Ann Arbor, while very similar to Chapel Hill, is probably a cooler town (IMO). Michigan has more national prestige. UNC is smaller. Do you like football or basketball better? What do you want to study? (Michigan has great engineering, UNC does not; UNC has great journalism, etc.) In the end, they are similar enough that for most people it would probably come down to which is cheaper.</p>
<p>hah. better weather. cold beats heat any day.
but that's just me being weird</p>
<p>It's subjective (obviously, but just wanted to point this out) as to which town is cooler. That said, ESPN rated Chapel Hill as the top college town in the nation. I've never visited Ann Arbor (but I've heard it is really cool) but Chapel Hill is definitely cool. Also Carrboro adds a lot of flavor to the mix.</p>
<p>i personally like Ann Arbor better, there is more to do close to campus, and it's pretty upscale. not that CH isnt nice though, both are great.</p>
<p>upscale = more expensive = not a good thing.</p>
<p>My favorite college town is Austin, and my favorite food places are the cheap eggroll stands on the west mall and all the cheap taquerias in east austin.</p>
<p>college kids usually can't afford upscale...that's why they live on ramen and peanut butter.</p>
<p>upscale living, the dining was def less expensive than...well, SD lol. and i dont think too many college kids will complain about having a clean town to call home; in fact, one of the biggest complaints i've heard about other top college towns (eg Berkeley, Madison, etc.), is that they are somewhat 'grungy.' i personally found Ann Arbor cleaner and more well-kept than CH, but, as i said before, both are great and you really cant go wrong with either.</p>
<p>the cost of UM is borderline insane nowadays with it almost if not directly rivaling those of Ivy league/very expensive private schools and while it offers a good education, its still a public school and thus should be cheaper to attend. UNC's tuition and cost of living (and the cost of living in NC in general) is much cheaper than that of UM. Im also a fan of warmer weather and Chapel Hill is a very nice place to live and even on the days that the weather is cooler, its normally still very sunny, and it just puts me in a better mood by itself. Also I don't really like the structure of UM dorms and campus buildings in general. It seems really old and not really my style. And these 2 schools offer essentially the same quality of education so UNC seems to be the better of the two. But I am biased since i attend UNC, and because I'm from ohio, is a HUGE OSU fan, and HATE michigan. But my reasons still seem semi-reasonable</p>
<p>You want to talk about old? Old East was built in 1789 and is still used as a dorm today.</p>