U of I harder for in-state

<p>This was on the front page of the Chicago Tribune. What are your thoughts?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0605100192may10,0,205476.story?coll=chi-homepagepromo440-fea%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0605100192may10,0,205476.story?coll=chi-homepagepromo440-fea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Knew it would happen eventually........it's gonna **** off a bunch off in-staters to the point they may have to reconsider it. But it is smart in the way UIUC will make more money and perhaps....tuition will stop rising so dang much.</p>

<p>I mean thats great. I hope 3.75/460v/700m/590w will cut it for OOS man.</p>

<p>BTW. Why are those *****es complaining anyway? They are going to raise the OOS %age from 10 to 15%. The people in the article need to relax. It's only up by 5% man.</p>

<p>What makes people stressed is how U of I is the only decent state school in Illinois and some people simply cannot afford out of state or private school tuition.</p>

<p>"Why are those *****es complaining anyway? They are going to raise the OOS % age from 10 to 15%. The people in the article need to relax. It's only up by 5% man."</p>

<p>Though there are divergent views on UIUC's plan, it helps to know a little more. </p>

<p>They intend to increase OOS to 15% of freshman class from current 10% over the next 4 years.</p>

<p>At the same time they intend to decrease the total freshman class from the current 7600 (approximate) to about 6500.</p>

<p>In other words, the in-state students will be vying for about 5525 freshman seats when currently they occupy about 6840. The combination of the intended increase in the OOS percentage and decrease in total freshman class amounts to a 20% decrease for in-state freshman, while the seats available to OOS will actually increase from about 760 to 975 or a 28% increase. They also intend to raise the percentage of those in the top 10% of their high school class from about 55% to 75%. </p>

<p>Now, you may see why many are worried, including a lot of high school counselors.</p>

<p>well uiuc wants to become a better school overall so i think it's a excellent plan. besides, getting into uiuc is not that difficult..</p>

<p>NOT THAT DIFFICULT???
well yea for some people like us but for many other people.....
I mean yea its easy to say..get in to Political Science but I doubt ANYONE would say it is easy to get into business or Electrical Engineering.</p>

<p>Yea, i was talkign about LSA.</p>

<p>Is getting into mathematics easy?</p>

<p>UIUC ain't as easy to get in as you make it sound like. Yea, just get at least a 3.6 GPA and get at least a 25 ACT right now and you're in LAS or ACES.</p>

<p>I got into ACES with a 3.72 GPA and a 26 ACT(didn't apply to LAS because LAS doesn't have really a business related major, while ACES has a few). Couldn't get into the Business School cause as you notice, my ACT isn't high enough.</p>

<p>but not everyone is as brilliant as you apparently. So stop this bullcrap that UIUC is "easy" to get into. It is getting progressively difficult(THAT INCLUDES THIS YEAR)</p>

<p>I know three kids who we're accepted and their ACT score was a 21 or lower. Also their GPA was about a B average - they took easy classes(no honors)</p>

<p>fine and applied arts?</p>

<p>I think. One is going into political science or something of that sort.</p>

<p>maybe they would attract more out-of-state students if they weren't raping us for tuition.... $24,000 plus the several thousand grand for fees on certain majors....</p>

<p>I think giving out-of-state students a slightly easier path to admissions is fair in return for charging them $14,000 more in tuition. You end up with a few more marginal students who are willing to pay more money for a better school than they otherwise could get into, and the school gets to use that money to improve everyone's education, e.g. hiring faculty and TAs.</p>

<p>What do you mean UIUC is the only decent in-state school? It is one of the top schools in the state, but there are other good state schools as well</p>

<p>The point of the article is that a lot of students rejected from UIUC will have pay OOS tuition at other Big 10 universities. UIC is a 3rd tier school, so it's not really a direct competitor for the Big 10. After UIUC and UIC, the quality really plummets to 4th tier schools like SIU and NIU. It's not like Michigan (UM, Michigan State) and Indiana (IU, Purdue) which have multiple good schools to choose from.</p>

<p>I would say Illinois St. is better than SIU or NIU. Not much better, but I would say it's a bit above those 2.</p>

<p>I think Wisconsin can expect a big jump in applications along with Iowa, Indiana and Michigan.</p>

<p>The statement that UIUC is the only top tiered public school is incorrect. UIC and NIU are good schools, and some of their programs are better than their equivilant at UIUC. Plus, it's easier for people to get in there. ISU is not a bad school either. SIUC has a reputation as a party school. Most people from my high school who went onto four year schools went to either ISU or NIU and I came from a rural high school. Only 4 people including myself went to UIUC.</p>