UC Berkeley 2016 Transfer Thread

@SDGoldenBear I submitted a TAG to UCI, and I don’t think they require full-time status - honestly, I’d probably get in even if the TAG were voided. I am completely missing the 6th quarter foreign language requirement, I believe, but whatever. If I don’t get in, then I don’t get in.

I’m primarily concerned with Cal - would it look bad to not have full-time status in the Spring because I’m taking two classes on the quarter system? Or would it be a nonissue, considering it will be ~15 units either way, ultimately?

I wouldn’t dream of taking an intersession course :)) - I’m torturing myself enough by commuting to multiple CCs.

My daughter reapplied after her kerfuffle at UCLA, and since she had already completed everything, for the fall and spring right before UC enrollment, she had no classes in fall and two in spring - and she got in. The only place they seem to care is Davis TAG.

@goldencub Are you hoping for regents from UCI? I heard if you have over a 3.7 or 3.8 you have a high chance of getting it?
I don’t what the cut-offs are for Cal and UCLA…

@themightybicycle I’m hoping for Regents at Cal, although I’m 99% sure that it won’t happen. If I got into both Cal and UCI but had regents at UCI, I’d go to Cal.

So no, I’m indifferent to it. But we’ll see what happens.

Does anyone know when they will be making the personal statement webinar public/sending it out to the people who signed up for the webinar? I wasn’t able to attend that one…

Hey, does anyone have any advice on writing the 2nd prompt? I’m finding it hard to choose a topic. I remember in the personal statement webinar the admission officer said that he wrote about being a first gen and low income in his and that he got a scholarship from alumni because of that. I’m both of these things but am finding it extremely hard to fit that into my ps. Any help would be appreciated, good luck on your apps everyone!

You’ll be fine. On Cal’s degree audit system they condense it down to a combined Summer&Fall term and a Winter/Spring term. Given that, I’m almost 100% certain a pseudo-“part time” status won’t hurt you at all.

Did the webinar actually say the person got a regents because they said they were first gen and low income? If they did, that isn’t right. It should be a level playing field, and not playing only to one demographic.

Some people I know who were very involved in Berkekey alumni all dropped out after they perceived a switch that wasn’t all-inclusive any longer. But that’s alumni, not Regents, which is based on merit. This is very sad to hear, if true.

I’m sure there was more to the essay than just talking about being first gen and low income but he said that is what he talked about in his ps

@lindyk8 I don’t think so. If it involved first gen/low income factors, then that’s likely more about having overcome adversity/having leadership qualities despite being disadvantaged (which seems right up Regents’ alley). I’m pretty sure the playing field is level.

Can you guys chance me 3.9 gpa from csusf not cc
Finished prerequisites by fall term all chem bio calc classes
One down fall I got a c+ in one class freshman fall which was a earth science class
Tons of volunteering in hospitals and bio lab as well as bio and calc snd chem tutor at college
Founded bio club, president of three clubs, part of a sorority, part of premed honors society,
I’m deciding between biology or mcb which one is easier to get into?

@goldencub Actually, I’m not sure I buy that, but I’ve been saying for years Berkeley throws that holistic bit in there, and it pretty much eliminates a good portion of potential merit candidates without adversity (at least for transfers). I do think it’s weighted to go a certain direction in general. In the end it isn’t that big of a deal, but it’s unfortunate, as there are deserving people who don’t get financial aid and are eliminated. My experience is very few get Regents who do not have adversity connected to it. Some do get it who don’t have need or adversity, but rarely. So be it.

A lot of people I know who don’t get financial aid have essentially turned their backs on the UCs. They’re good people. Their kids worked hard through high school, got stellar grades, tons of volunteering and leadership and the highest admit they got was Santa Barbara, while lesser GPAs and less volunteering who had need got the top UCs. I get it, it’s all about diversity. But try telling that to a Californian whose kid worked super-hard. In the 5-6 cases I know, the families chose not to attend the UCs. There is a bitterness with a lot of people. And I cannot 100% say it is not warranted. I get it. I get diversity. I get bringing in people who didn’t have the advantage. But I do feel it could be slightly more centered. And if it’s true that the webinar said to put adversity in and connected it the Regents, it’s sad.

One other thing to include in this tiny rant. I think what the UCs need to do is create a very prestigious award that has no monetary value. The problem that currently exists (and it does exist, we need to disagree) is people who are not getting financial aid are overwhelmingly feeling shut out from recognition of good work. I know a family whose kid, no aid, high GPA, created an app that he sold, a health-related app, got into Berkeley, but did not get a Regents and then heard of three cases with less leadership who got it (adversity). It’s not the $$$ that is bothering these folks, it’s the systematic shut-out of recognition, recognition that can follow you through life and be put on your resume. Sure, some people will say well if you don’t need aid, then you don’t need these awards. I say they’re missing the point. Deserving students should not be shut out from recognition.

So, create a new prestigious award with no monetary value whatsoever, and let it truly be a level playing field.

Also, just to note another situation to put this in perspective. I know three people who ran the Berkeley alumni association in our area for years. Great folks. Very philanthropic. Two were Asian, a great deal of money - very generous and fair, who worked tirelessly both physically and financially to help the community. The woman who was the president of the group, not as wealthy, but again countless hours to every ethnic group and low income, etc.

So, for years this is how the Berkeley alumni scholarships unfolded: Berkeley would send the applications of every student in their alumni district. From those, the group would pick the targeted number of finalists for interviews, etc. Their list included a wide array of students from different ethnicities, income brackets, etc. It was based on leadership and initiative, taking into account aspects of the student’s life.

About 6-7 years ago, not sure when, the rules changed and Berkeley was not allowed to send the full applications because of privacy. From that point on, rather than sending all the area applications with student number and devoid of personal and identifying info for the group to sift through, Berkeley hand-picked the finalists and sent them over. For the next three years, until they all quit, every single finalist (100%) for all three years had hardship or adversity and financial need. Not one single applicant for a leadership award sent over in those three years did not have need of some sort. These people I know are fair-minded, but the process totally turned them off. They knew there were deserving students being shut out.

So, there needs to be a way to not shut out one group. Obviously there are no public stats, but if Regents were 70/30 I would see that as OK, but I sincerely doubt it is. I suspect the true breakdown is more like a few crumbs tossed to non-financial aid, with about 90% or higher going to hardship. Again, the Regents is a merit award, so for me it’s troubling from the recognition POV.

I could be wrong (I often am), but I believe that the Regents Scholarship is merit based. The people who award it have no information about the financial status of students. The amount of money you get may be based on need, but the awarding of the scholarship is not. So Bill Gates’s kid has the same chance as anyone else.

@socaldad2 Some of the Regents can include hardship in the analysis, I believe. On some UC sites they have it worded oddly (as they often do). Berkeley and others say they look first at merit - so merit is the first defining category - but then they throw in that holistic lynchpin at some point. So there’s a second component, it sounds like. They’ve never been clear exactly on how that works - which is why I find it troubling indeed if the webinar told students outright to note first generation/hardship and you might get a Regents (if indeed it did say that). I did not see the webinar, so can’t verify. But if it was said, why say that unless it has some bearing?

Also, the Regents committee has access to the entire application, and the personal statements usually talk about hardship,etc. when it exists. It’s pretty blatant. I just know from reading Berkeley alumni essays, a person’s background usually comes through simply from the essays and ECs, which are noted.

It’s like the lottery system for on-campus housing. Yes, it’s a lottery but I believe there is a preliminary step being left out, which separates people into groups. I can’t verify this but I’ve run into too many people not on financial aid always getting the highest cost housing that they didn’t request. Maybe a coincidence, but I assume the UCs don’t want financial aid to be paying for the most expensive housing, and that makes sense. Hence, a preliminary step before the lottery. Again, I can’t verify, but it’s my gut instinct. :expressionless:

I’m fine with whatever they do. I mean, who cares in the final analysis.

This is a weird question, but is there a credit check when you apply for housing through the UC schools?

Has anyone heard about this?!

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-ln-uc-enroll-20151109-story.html

“The Legislature last spring allocated an additional $25 million to UC to increase the number of in-state undergraduates by 5,000 no later than 2016-17.”

“Napolitano again emphasized that all nine undergraduate campuses would enroll a significant number, even UCLA and UC Berkeley, where demand for admission is strongest.”

!!!

@boxandwhiskers no

I’m finishing up my personal statements and thought I’d come here for a question that no counselors have had a good answer for. In the first transfer prompt, should I say that I’m majoring in “Electrical Engineering and Computer Science” because I want to appeal directly to Berkeley? or should I say “Computer Engineering” which is essentially the same subject and what all of the other UCs call it. What do you guys think?

You can say either. The UCs won’t pay attention, and as far as they know, after you transfer you plan to double major.