UC Berkeley is too hard???

<p>Honestly, it depends on your major. I transferred as a political science major from a really easy community college and it honestly hasn’t been that difficult. The professors will assign a bunch of readings, but you can either skim or skip them. If you’re a social sciences major, you just have to know how to work the system to get the minimal amount of work done in order to get the maximal effect. </p>

<p>On the other hand, if you’re a hard science major (biology, chemistry, physics, etc.) you may be screwed. Most of those guys literally don’t have enough time in the day to study. Then again, for most of them, it’s their passion. </p>

<p>Figure out what you really want to do and you’ll enjoy the work load here. A lot of people even double major here. Just continually check your bspace, talk to your GSI’s during office hours (even if it’s about nothing), and stay on top of your ish and you should be fine. Trust me. I’m a beach bum from LA and if I can make it here, so can you. Go Bears!</p>

<p>How would it be being a Spanish or other major similar insanely demanding? For me, language is a passion but every once in awhile one of my passions (because I have a few) gets destroyed or at least tainted by a baaad Professor lol.</p>

<p>Because all I ever hear about on these boards is science and engineering–nothing at all about like english or humanities majors! lol. not that that’s a bad thing but…</p>

<p>from what I’ve heard, spanish is pretty easy. </p>

<p>but Cal’s it’s not that much different from CC, just a lot more people who are at your level. It’s like you were the best basketball player in college but when you get to the NBA, you’re just another guy because everyone has your capabilities.</p>

<p>I figured that! haha
I have already been through dorm life-I was actually at school for 2 years…and then the economy came! LOL (that can be my excuse for everything…)</p>

<p>But yeah so it’s been annoying because the classes are SOOO much easier that I can’t even motivate myself to study because, well…there really ISN’T anything to study! lol
But enough of this I won’t take up page-space with this.</p>

<p>thanks for the response!</p>

<p>Classes are curved… its really not that bad, once you get in the first semester is tough but you get used to it… there are tons of people here who goof off and waste time and still get by… just apply and go to Cal, it will pay of when you look for a job or grad school.</p>

<p>PS I am a Mechanical Engineering major</p>

<p>how is philosophy? Is it hard to get good grades in philosophy classes?</p>

<p>i also have a question about integrative biology this is coming from a junior in HS</p>

<p>first, how competitive are the intro premed courses? what percent get A’s and B’s?</p>

<p>second, i read that the average gpa for IB Major is 3.3 is there any truth to that?</p>

<p>lastly and probably the most difficult question to answer: In HS, i never procrastinate i know how to manage my time and such. So i am willing to spend 3 hr./unit outside of class studying. which is more than the 2 hr./hour average. So is that a good plan? or is there so trick to get it right?</p>

<p>i am optimistic because im going top graduate top 2% im my class (4.22 gpa, 2200 SAT). But i am nervous as well because of all the stiff comptition. i dont care what medical school i go to i just wanna come to berkeley, have fun, and get around a 3.5 gpa maybe 33+ MCATs </p>

<p>my counselor asked me " Do u want undergrad prestige of Medical school prestige? Because you cant have both if your going to cal" i said i would rather have undergrad. just because i know at berkeley there are more research oppurtunites and more people at my intelectual level. Am i dumb for saying this? Is it better to have Medical School prestige? Also Cal has lots of good professors that have done so extraordinary things.</p>

<p>example: General Anatomy is taught by Marian Diamond and in the 1980’s she actually studied Albert Einstein’s brain!!! How cool is that?</p>

<p>“If you’re a social sciences major, you just have to know how to work the system to get the minimal amount of work done in order to get the maximal effect.”</p>

<p>@ XxPatelrapxX: Whoah…do you know me? lol. I’m just kidding. I don’t do the minimum amount of work, but I definitely procrastinate until the last minute to get the maximum effect…and I’m a Psych major. Oh well, not at UCB yet.</p>

<p>@ FutureENTSurgeon: I’m actually going through a similar dilemma as a transfer student. I will have a 3.8 by the end of this semester from a CCC, but I know that GPA will probably not hold at UCB…esp if I decide to do the premed requirements there. I’ve literally been considering doing a post-bacc program after I get my Bachelor’s (hopefully from Berkeley) at SFSU or something so that I can avoid those intense curves at UCB. I’m also considering Davis instead because I know it won’t be as competitive there.</p>

<p>I’m thinking like anonymous said: If I go to UCB I’m in the NBA with the majority at my level. If I go to UCD: I’m in the NBA with some, but there may be some NCAA elite 8 players in there as well.</p>

<p>Ahh choices choices choices…</p>

<p>@FutureENTSurgeon You’re on a transfer thread. I’m assuming by what your saying you’re in high school and nobody here is in high school. Unless you’re planning on going to community college first, you should try another thread.</p>

<p>I’m considering doing the same thing Emilsinclair … I want to pursue pharmacy and it’s just not realistic to go to berkeley and do pre-med requirements as well. Davis or SD ftw!</p>

<p>Actually, Philosophy courses at Berkeley is known to be extremely rigorous and has one of the lowest gpa in humanities…</p>

<p>not true oski. Phil GPA is about the same as the other Humanities. It is rigorous though :D.</p>

<p>Berkeley is hard…</p>

<p>In fact, the difference in difficulty between Berkeley and schools like MIT or Harvard (depending on if you’re into science or the arts :wink: ) is so negligible that you can say Berkeley is the hardest.</p>

<p>HOWEVER, it is not TOO hard. YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO IT!!!</p>

<p>I say… Get all your confidence and motivation together and go for it. The fact of the matter is that the only university that is too hard is one that either doesn’t prepare you properly or that grades completely unfairly. Berkeley WILL prepare you and Berkeley WILL test fairly (that is, if you take the time to study everything in detail, carefully).</p>

<p>So, Berkeley is the hardest out there. But Berkeley isn’t too hard. :slight_smile: You can do it. Anyone who can get into Berkeley can do it. It’s all a matter of trying reallly hard and working really hard while staying perfectly balanced after you transfer. The best way to achieve doing this is to do something you’re interested in.</p>

<p>Anyone who is questioning themselves should read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell b/c it will show you that the myth of HIGH IQ = DO BETTER is completely false. The fact of the matter is that if you have a high ENOUGH IQ (which you DO HAVE if you can get into Berkeley) then you have the potential to do perfectly well (even win a nobel peace prize).</p>

<p>Track programs, honors societies, and “gifted” programs have FOOLED YOU GUYS into thinking that only the most “naturally” intelligent people can succeed. THIS IS NOT TRUE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.</p>

<p>Once again, everyone should read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell because it is: 1. interesting 2. eye-opening 3. inspiring <== Also, it’s not a heavy read.</p>

<p>I’m having a hard time of choosing between berkeley and ucla. I think the only thing makes me lean away from cal is the kind of story I heard from many friends saying that someone who got high GPA in cc could not do well at cal, they ruined their gpa and couldn’t get into good gradschools… Those stories really scare me!!!</p>

<p>^ Those kind of people you hear about got a high GPA at CC without trying; they got lucky at CC. I would argue they are not representative of the average transfer, as the average transfer only performs marginally worse than their freshman counterparts (at least those that don’t drop out, which are probably those people you hear about).</p>

<p>Grad schools, not professional schools, care about undergrad research and the quality of it equally, if not far more, than they do about GPA’s. </p>

<p>If I hear that any of you chickened out of going to Cal, I will perpetually vomit for all of eternity; because you don’t deserve to be there, you deserve far far less; because your spot should go to someone like me that cares more about learning than their GPA.</p>

<p>lol at perpetually vomiting for all eternity.</p>

<p>cake and grief counseling will be given at the end of this test.</p>

<p>^ So long as it’s yellow cake or confetti cake, I might be able to subsist through the vomiting.</p>

<p>well when i went to berkeley…i spoke to my anthro undergraduate adviser and she said that anthro is laid back and that i would do well.</p>

<p>i spoke to my EOP counselor at berkeley and he said…he is cool, we talk like friends talk…use the word sh1t and hell and laugh and all that good jazzy stuff.
well he said " whats your major?..anthro…<em>chuckles</em> nah girl you got this. anthro is cool at berkeley, you got this sh1t girl."</p>

<p>so am i scared that berkeley will be too hard for me? no i have reassurance from the undergrad adviser and my counselor…</p>

<p>but i am still a lil intimidated.</p>

<p>^ Seriously, **** off if the difficulty is holding you back. You should welcome the difficulty if you loved anthro as much as you claimed. I constantly belittle my engineering, compsci and physics profs in an attempt to get them to **** me into study harder. I understand why they don’t (the majority of people at CC don’t share my priorities), but challenges are good not bad.</p>