<p>"Propelled by budget crises, California is becoming more like other states in passing more of the burden of a college education on to students."</p>
<p>"Compared with other states that already have passed most educational costs to students, California historically has kept tuition low and provided generous support for higher education. But now, Hartle said, the Golden State is becoming more like others in the view that students are the main beneficiaries of a college education and should bear most of the cost."</p>
<p>"For most of its history, UC charged students little or nothing for their education. In recent years, though, multimillion-dollar cuts in state funding have led to soaring tuition. Back-to-back increases for the coming school year have pushed tuition and fees for undergraduates to more than $13,000, with the total price of attendance, including room and board, topping $31,000 a year."</p>
<p>"One way UC has tried to raise revenue has been to enroll more out-of-state undergraduates, who pay significantly more than California residents. The goal is for nonresidents to make up about 10% of UC undergraduates, still far fewer than at top public schools elsewhere. This fall, UC Berkeley will have the system's largest share of non-Californians, nearly 30% of freshmen. UC San Diego and UCLA are next, with about 18% each."</p>
<p>Ditto, dstark. I’m stunned that COA at UCB is now at over $35K. I think the high costs will drive many talented students to look at privates which will lure them with merit $ and end up costing less per year than the UCs. Bummer for the state, IMO.</p>
<p>COA (living on campus): $32,634
COA (living off campus): $28,162</p>
<p>and the above includes buying the campus health insurance, $1,400-$1,700 in personal expenses, money for transportation, etc. - costs which can often be reduced.</p>
<p>I think Governor Brown is poised to sign CA assembly bill 131 just about now - the so-called California dream act - and this will offer $$$ support to illegal aliens for financial aid in our public community colleges, Cal state universities, and University of California. </p>
<p>The students who get damaged are the regular tax-paying lower middle to middle class families/kids who should be prioritized to be able to afford public education in California. </p>
<p>I think OOS and foreign students should be behind in-state legal residents and citizens, and illegal aliens should not be admitted to the above institutions much less receive financial support to do so.</p>
<p>California is an expensive state and having a rise in tuition and fees doesn’t surprise me, but the overall system is moving in directions I don’t like and which are not fair and of most benefit to citizens and legal in-state residents.</p>
<p>late party: I agree. The state is broke and services for the elderly and disabled are being cut. State parks are closing. And we just had an earthquake! As I write. Moreover, these illegals won’t be hired into college degrees jobs because it is illegal to hire them.</p>
<p>“I think the high costs will drive many talented students to look at privates which will lure them with merit $ and end up costing less per year than the UCs.”</p>
<p>It is happening in the Midwest.
High achieving kids go to private colleges because they are cheaper than state U.</p>
<p>20more, it’s also happening where I live, in Colorado. Both my kids went out of state, one to a private, and we’re still paying less than at Univ or Colo, Boulder. </p>
<p>The UCs are California’s treasure, says this Cal grad. It’s very sad to see this amazing system at risk. My hope is that the schools rebound - or at least start rebounding - when the economy rebounds. </p>
<p>Ucsd-ucla-dad, thanks for the correction on UCB’s COA. Let’s just hope it doesnt go up to over 35K NEXT year.</p>
<p>The “illegal aliens” who are receiving in-state tuition are actually undocumented students who graduate from public high schools, whose parents brought them here as children. What would you prefer for these students to do, go to college or join gangs? Isn’t it preferable for them, many of whom came here unwillingly and unwittingly as babies, to have a future? Or would you rather they roam the streets? Some of them are super smart, by the way. Maybe one of them will cure cancer.
My D is at UCLA (full pay). UC tuition is still very reasonable, about $13,000 a year. The rest of the costs are housing and other normal college costs like transportation and health fees, and those can be lowered if you put your kid on a budget, use your own insurance, etc. Her costs are still around $25000 a year. I think USC tuition this year is over $42000, just tuition.</p>
<p>What’s the difference between “illegal alien” and “undocumented”? Fundamentally, nothing. “Undocumented” is just a euphemism for “illegal alien”; either way, you are describing the same population, so let’s not play word games, especially since the “A” in DREAM stands for “alien” anyway.</p>
<p>These students are not U.S. citizens, U.S. permanent residents, or law-abiding non-resident aliens on F-1 visas. They are here illegally, so they shouldn’t even be in the higher education system, much less receive any publicly funded financial aid.</p>
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<p>Since most of these students are Mexican nationals, I’d prefer that they complete their undergrad at UNAM or ITAM and if they’re good enough, come here to legally pursue advanced education.</p>
<p>fabrizio, if you really don’t understand the difference between the phrase ‘illegal alien’ and ‘undocumented’ then I doubt you have the subtlety of mind to understand why the Dream Act is humane, rational and practical.</p>
<p>These undocumented students are the children of the nannies, housekeepers, gardeners, fruit pickers and other undocumented workers who service California. Maybe they shouldn’t be here. But they are, through no fault of their own. I can’t imagine we want to be the kind of country where these kids sell Chiclets on street corners rather than go to school. What kind of human beings are we? We use the services of their parents at cut rates. Anyone see “The Help”? The same type of racism and exploitation still goes on, trust me, but with Hispanics. How many nannies do you see walking to the bus stop in the hot sun every afternoon in your neighborhood?</p>
<p>I would love to read your explanation of the supposed difference. To me, there is none. One is just a euphemism of the other. And as I hinted, I think it’s ironic that you’re bringing up the DREAM Act to argue against the phrase “illegal alien” when the “A” in DREAM stands for “alien.”</p>
<p>Do you think there’s a difference between “You’re fired” and “Your place in the future of this firm is no longer secure”? I don’t see a difference there, and I don’t see a difference here.</p>
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<p>Fine. I just hope you aren’t wondering why your state has fiscal woes.</p>
<p>“Hispanic” isn’t a race, but to address your point more substantially, I have no prejudice against Hispanics. As I said, I am not opposed to Mexicans (or for that matter, anyone outside of the United States) coming here legally to pursue advanced education, possibly even with state funding. It’s redundant, but yes, these students are here legally, and upon graduation, they can also be hired legally and can possibly transition to permanent residency. The illegal aliens here cannot be hired legally, so it’s a waste of state finances to fund their higher education.</p>
<p>I can be for that kind of immigration and against rewarding illegal immigration. There’s no contradiction.</p>
<p>With the proximity of Mexico to the United States, it is a given that a porous border might not be much of a hindrance for our southern neighbors to seek the “american” dream. However, speaking about the Dream Act, it might surprise you that, when it comes to higher education, and more specifically when it comes to the UC system, the distribution of illegal/undocumented aliens does not follow the same distribution as the population. </p>
<p>So what’s your point, xiggi? As an American of Chinese descent, cognitive dissonance is supposed to change my views on illegal immigration because “nearly half of the undocumented immigrants [sic] in the UC system are Asian Americans”?</p>