UCB vs USC vs UCLA Help me decide!!

College Search & Selection
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<p>I have been admitted to Annenberg School of communication(USC), College of letters and science(UCB), Art history (UCLA), and also Oxford of Emory.</p>

<p>I am an international student, with 2200+ SAT. </p>

<p>My first choice major is Communication/ Media studies,
but who knows..maybe I'll change my mind during the 4years.
So if it's not communication, then Econ/ business/ IR PSYCO etc. will also be ok.</p>

<p>But I'm sure I'll never love the science and engineering part.</p>

<p>I know USC has perfect Comm, but I'm afraid that I'll change mind.
And for sure, UCB and UCLA has better reputation.
UCB also offers more opportunities to other courses apart from comm, but more peer pressure.</p>

<p>I'm really frustrated...please help me decide. (reputation, personal experience, finding a job, get to an ivy league graduate school)
Thank you so so so much!!</p>

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<p>Desperately need advice…!
please help! ><</p>

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<p>Do people even know about USC internationally? I say it’s between Cal and UCLA. UCLA has an excellent Comm program, but it’s hard to get into. Cal has Media Studies which is eh! Both Cal and UCLA have Economics.</p>

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<p>Go to USC. Private school = the best jobs after college.</p>

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<p>This is pretty funny. As if people know about UCLA and Cal internationally any more than USC? I dare you to try to prove it.</p>

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<p>Sorry but does Cal’s media studies is eh means it is really so so…? but ucla’s comm is inferior to usc’s comm right?</p>

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<p>okay, thanks a lot. and what about the network part?</p>

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<p>“This is pretty funny. As if people know about UCLA and Cal internationally any more than USC? I dare you to try to prove it.”</p>

<p>[|ARWU</a> 2010](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp]|ARWU”>http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp) is one of the most referred to world ranking of universities.</p>

<p>Here’s another world ranking of universities: <a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/top-400.html[/url]”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/top-400.html&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And another:
<a href=“http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2011[/url]”>http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2011&lt;/a&gt;. </p>

<p>I’ll admit that world rankings don’t mean much, but they do demonstrate that Cal and UCLA are some of the more known universities globally, especially when compared to USC.</p>

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<p>Does cost factor into your decision? Are these impacted majors at either UCLA or Cal? Will the classes be available? </p>

<p>Have you had the opportunity to vist the campuses?</p>

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<p>Haven’t visited the campuses.
Cost will be ok and there’s not much difference between them.</p>

<p>Dun know… i’m admitted by art history(ucla) but i want to learn comm. is it possible to change major?</p>

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<p>SMC,
USC has large numbers of international offices. The alumni association has active clubs in Asia, Europe and South America. The Marshall School of Business conferences in Asia have been sold out. Sponsors have been some of the largest corporations in Asia. Sponsors have been Tingyl Holding Co., Korean Air Lines, Fubon Intl, Hanjin Shipping, Capital Services Group (China), ITRI, Suntory, Toyota, Japan Times, Intersoft, Edelman Japan, EXchange and Sunrider among others.</p>

<p>Some USC alumni in Asia are:
Seung-Yu-Kim–Chrm. of Hana Financial Group of Korea
Dr. Chang Jung–Pres. of Yonsei University
Ronnie Chan–Chrm. of Hang Lung Group, Ltd.<br>
Toshiaki Ogasawara–Chrm. & Publisher of The Japan Times
Bongrak Sohn–Chrm. of TCC Steel and Director of Korea Intl. Trade Association
Dr. Mu Ping–Preident of World Heritage Foundation
Yang Ho Cho-President of Korean Air Lines
Hang Young Hoon-Former Prime Minister of South Korea
Takeo Miki-Former Prime Minister of Japan
Dr. D. Suphamongkohn–Thailand Minister of Foreign Affairs
Rich Wang-Founder of Shanghai Fuller Foods
Stephen Harper–Pres. & CEO of New Horizon Real Estate Group
Don-Young Cho-Former VP of Corp. Communication of Renault-Samsung Motors
Seokgu Yun-CEO of Security Technology
George Tyhan-Wen Chen–Founder & CEO of the Capital Group
Shiro Naba-President of the Tokyo Sabres
Dr. Lily Chiang-President of EI Media Technology Ltd, Founder of Eco-Ted Holdings
Feng Deng-Co-founder of Net Screen Technologies
Garrick Wang–CEO Retailco, Inc.
Arthur Lin–Famous inventor
Andru Subowo–Managing Director Bramadi Capital
Ms. Siriporn Chaiyasuta-General Counsel Chevron South. Ltd.
Keng Thai Leong–Director-Genral Infocomm Development of Singapore
Goanpot Asvinvichit–Pres. & CEO of Govt. Savings Bank
Raj Kamal Jha-Author
Shang Hua-Teng–Computer Scientist-Awarded Fulkerson Prize
Ms. Sirikate Chirakiti-Exec. VP Central Dept. Stores, Ltd.
Rudyan Kopot-Pres. & Director of Dipasena Group
Nemesio Prudente-President of Polytechnic University of the Phillippines</p>

<p>Past President of USC, Dr. Steven Sample, was the first President of the Association of Pacific Rim Universities.</p>

<p>Many USC professors have international honors such as the Honda Prize and Order of the Rising Sun. Dr. Manuel Castells received Norway’s highest honor, the Holberg Memorial International Prize.</p>

<p>USC and UCLA collaborate together at the USC/UCLA Joint East Asian Studies Center.</p>

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<p>I’m a UCLA grad, 2010. UCLA’s communications department is awesome, I took all my elective classes through them but in order to transfer into that major from Art history you have to earn at least a 3.5 upon applying to the major. There isn’t an essay required to apply to transfer into communications but space is limited and communications classes are competitive and fill up very very quickly. The department reviews your transcript after applying and they notify you within 2 months to see if you’ve been accepted. If you don’t get in as a freshman you can always apply again as a sophomore and acceptance is solely based upon the comm studies faculty’s decision. All three are great schools and I’d recommend Cal/UCLA for your undergrad, the network is def there at UCLA for a communications job, you’ll meet several writers/directors in the lectures (guests lectures) if you have any other questions feel free to email me contact me personally.</p>

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<p>UCLA is in the better part of Los Angeles as well so you might want to consider that in your undergraduate experience since you’ll be there for 4 years! Dorm life heavily encourages studying, excellent food as well. As a freshman you have several chances to apply to be admitted as a communications study major. I recommend UCLA’s communications study major if you can transfer into it (assuming you’re an excellent student) LA has many company’s in the area depending on what type of job you want. I’d recommend UCLA for their com network, internship opportunities while an undergrad and USC for grad school.</p>

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<p>Go with UCLA or UCB!</p>

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<p>Education is an investment. Here’s how Berkeley is superior to the other schools in your list.</p>

<p>[Top</a> US Colleges ? Graduate Salary Statistics](<a href=“http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp]Top”>http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/top-us-colleges-graduate-salary-statistics.asp)</p>

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<p>@grabbit @Georgia Girl :slight_smile: </p>

<p>The world’s top 100 universities ranked by reputation alone, based on the largest international survey of academic opinion ever undertaken.</p>

<p>[Top</a> Universities by Reputation 2012](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/reputation-rankings.html]Top”>World Reputation Rankings 2012 | Times Higher Education (THE))</p>

<h1>1 Harvard University</h1>

<h1>2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology</h1>

<h1>3 University of Cambridge</h1>

<h1>4 Stanford University</h1>

<h1>5 University of California Berkeley</h1>

<h1>6 University of Oxford</h1>

<h1>7 Princeton University</h1>

<h1>8 University of Tokyo</h1>

<p>#9 University of California Los Angeles</p>

<h1>10 Yale University</h1>

<h1>11 California Institute of Technology</h1>

<h1>12 University of Michigan</h1>

<h1>13 Imperial College London</h1>

<h1>14 University of Chicago</h1>

<h1>15 Columbia University</h1>

<h1>16 Cornell University</h1>

<h1>16 University of Toronto</h1>

<h1>18 Johns Hopkins University</h1>

<h1>19 University of Pennsylvania</h1>

<h1>20 Kyoto University</h1>

<p>Huuuuge gap</p>

<h1>69 USC</h1>

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<p>There’s certainly no question that UCLA’s more prestigious internationally than USC. Most, if not all international rankings affirm this. But that’s mostly due to stuff like HEEACT though, where USC doesn’t place in the overall ranking (compared to UCLA which has steadily placed at #5):</p>

<p>[Performance</a> Ranking of Scientific Papers for World Universities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“Performance Ranking of Scientific Papers for World Universities - Wikipedia”>Performance Ranking of Scientific Papers for World Universities - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>That being said, USC does have a very good schools of communications. And UCLA has a very good communications major. (it’s VERY competitive.) It is, however, impacted (although, from my understanding of ‘impacted,’ that just means it’s extremely competitive and far more people apply than can be admitted. And this, in itself, doesn’t affect the quality of the paper.) </p>

<p>Additionally, even if USC isn’t as prestigious as UCLA as a whole, it doesn’t follow that it’s communications school isn’t extremely prestigious.</p>

<p>I’m not sure how UCB fairs in communication though, so i can’t recommend it. So i say USC or UCLA.</p>

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<p>Berkeley…</p>

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<p>I wouldn’t buy the Payscale data. Do a search on it on this board and you’ll find the problems inherent in the survey.</p>

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<p>My recommendation for school: USC. The best communication school, good/great programs for your backup plans, easiness to transfer into those majors, strongest networking in your preferred fields, and many advantages over public schools, i.e. Berkeley and UCLA. Search this forum for all the discussion on the comparison. </p>

<p>My reminder for asking for help here: People will give your their “opinion”, not the facts. Many Americans are proud of “being biased” (search how many “I am biased” you can find in this forum). It is alright for most of the people here as long as their opinion is based on their passion, love, belief, faith, or whatever. You make decision on your own. What if your decision is wrong? Too bad, I am sorry.</p>