UChicago class 2017 profile is out

<p>The UChicago has published its class 2017 profile at</p>

<p><a href="https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/classprofile.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/classprofile.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Some interesting things from it:</p>

<p>Applications to UChicago
Number of Applicants 30,304
Number Accepted 2,670
Number Enrolled 1,426</p>

<p>The actual enrollment number is smaller than the announced number of commits in May (1,479). I remember there were ~20 people taking gap year last year. Adding them together it would be 1,479 + 20 ~= 1499. So 1,499 - 1,426 ~= 73 students have either taken gap year or gone to other places during summer melt, etc. I think fewer enrollment relieves the housing constraints a bit.</p>

<p>I think the number of the total applicants and accepted are off a bit from those announced earlier this year - wonder how that happened.</p>

<p>Standardized Testing
ACT Middle 50% 32-35
SAT Middle 50% 1450-1550
ACT Score Range (Admitted Students) 20-36
SAT Score Range (Admitted Students) 1110-1600</p>

<p>Compare the stats to class 2016's </p>

<p>Standardized Testing
ACT Middle 50% 31–34
SAT Middle 50% 1440–1540
ACT Score Range (Admitted Students) 24–36
SAT Score Range (Admitted Students) 1230–1600</p>

<p>Also class 2015's</p>

<p>Standardized Testing
ACT Middle 50% 31–34
SAT Middle 50% 1420–1530
ACT Score Range (Admitted Students) 23–36
SAT Score Range (Admitted Students) 1100–1600</p>

<p>The enrolled middle 50%s are up a bit but the admitted bottoms are down a lot this year. Some lucky(or not) applicants with lower stats got in - they might have had other strong credentials to overcome the testing scores.</p>

<p>Comments?</p>

<p>1110? 20? Who got those scores? They must have been utterly exceptional in other areas! Or rich. lol</p>

<p>For many English is not their native language so they lag in standardized test scores even though, as you say, they must excel in other areas. As to “rich” not necessarily because for many internationals their country will pay for them (in a manner of a scholarship or contract to work for the government/university/private enterprise when they go back).</p>

<p>This means that UChicago is no longer as interested in just the numbers but also increased the value of other softer things in the application. This is a great development for UChicago.</p>

<p>Almost 1/3 of their 2017 class is Asian. If anyone complains to me that asians have it rough, I’m going to slap em</p>

<p>The 1/3 Asian number will get tricky to manage especially when you consider that UChicago has yet to tap a lot of non-second generation talent directly from Asia akin to JHU, Columbia, and Berkeley. While there have always been students from Hong Kong and Korea - and to a lesser extent Japan - the inflection in wealthy PRC nationals has yet to hit. Strong rankings will year-after-year will also pull more talent from developed Asia where the percieved premium over reputable local schools will continue to rise.</p>

<p>I have noticed the fact too.</p>

<p>It is not clear to me is if </p>

<ol>
<li>Asian applicants have represented 28.26% of total applicants or</li>
<li>Asian admits have represented 28.26% of total admits</li>
</ol>

<p>The same student body change has happened at some other top private schools too, at least recent years.</p>

<p>The 50% ranges of ACT and SAT scores have been trending higher though not a lot. The bottom 25% ranges may have remained the same even with some fluctuations on the absolute numbers.</p>

<p>Definitely they can use those spots to diversify even more their student body.</p>

<p>UChicago has never emphasized test scores. They have always listed them as considered rather than important of very important. It just so happens that what they are interested in is highly correlated with high test scores.</p>

<p>The growth in Asian students from Asia is structural and is pretty much occurring at any school people have heard of in those countries (essentially the top 20 or so US colleges plus large, private schools like UCLA, BU, NYU). However, my gut tells me that immigrant students from Asia will be increasingly penalized relative to second generation students who attended US high schools due to some legitimate concerns about the academic culture that surrounds college prep in Korea / China / Japan. In particular: cheating is the norm and not penalized by administrators, homework and class attendance are frequently not taken seriously relative to exam performance unless the grading scheme explicitly forces it, once a critical mass of ESL students from a given language group is reached on campus, some students will choose to collaborate / socialize only in that language (limiting their contributions to the broader intellectual community). That said, there are strategies to address all of these issues, and it is something that smart schools should focus on rather than merely passing over otherwise intellectually qualified individuals.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>The numbers reported are for the class that enrolled, not for the acceptances they sent out.</p></li>
<li><p>Usually, when colleges report their numbers, they report “Asians” separately from “International Students,” such that the true number of people with an Asian background is some sum of “Asians,” “Internationals,” and “Other”. However, if that’s the case with Chicago, it’s likely that students whom others will regard as Asian represent more than 1/3 of the entering class, and that people of non-color who are U.S. citizens or residents constitute only 27-point-something percent of the class. Which seems a little unlikely, though hardly impossible. </p></li>
</ol>

<p>So I suspect that the “Asian” number includes Asian Asians as well as Asian-Americans. I think the same thing is happening at some other colleges as well. There’s no question at this point that all the analyses of discrimination against Asians had a real impact, and that whatever quotas or simply attitudes were tamping down Asian acceptances have pretty much vanished. But I think the colleges are puffing up their “Asian” numbers as much as they can to make certain people stop talking about anti-Asian discrimination.</p>

<p>Berkeley will still have the highest percentage of Asians because they are race-blind in admissions and Asians, as a whole, score the highest on standardized tests. period.</p>

<p>Where did you get the 1/3 Asian number? International has a large Europe and Latin American component in UChicago. Bollocks!</p>

<p>^JHS has it about right. About 50% of foreign students are from China, India or South Korea. At least this is true nationally. [Record</a> Number Of International Students Attend U.S. Colleges : The Two-Way : NPR](<a href=“Record Number Of International Students Attend U.S. Colleges : The Two-Way : NPR”>Record Number Of International Students Attend U.S. Colleges : The Two-Way : NPR)</p>

<p>Columbia, MIT and Caltech are the only private universities with a higher percentage of Asian American undergrads. However, all three offer engineering. Stanford, Harvard, Yale have 20% Asian Americans, and Princeton and Penn have 19%. Chicago’s 28.6% is abnormally high.</p>

<p>Structurally, having about a quarter of your class being Asian makes demographic sense. Asian heritage individuals broadly are more than a quarter of the world’s population and about a quarter to a third of developed market population (which have the secondary school educational infrastructure to feed universities). For a college that is aiming to globalize, this seems then like a reasonable steady state. There is also an opinion leader argument to be made for China / South Korea / India / Taiwan. As these countries play a bigger role globally, schools that don’t have a certain connectedness to elites will have a lesser stake in shaping their policy, social and scientific dialogues.</p>

<p>The ethnic diversity of student body vary every year.</p>

<p>E.g., Stanford’s class 2015 Ethnic Diversity</p>

<p>Whites make up 30.6 percent of the Class of 2015, followed by students who identify as Asian American (22.4 percent); African American (10.6 percent); Mexican American (8.7 percent); international students (8.4 percent); other Hispanic (6.7 percent); Native American and Hawaiian (4.7 percent); and unknown (8 percent).</p>

<p>[Stanford</a> welcomes the Class of 2015](<a href=“You've requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News”>You've requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News)</p>

<p>Stanford’s class 2017</p>

<p>Ethnic Diversity
African American 10%
Asian 21%
International 9.8%
Mexican/Chicano 7.9%
Native American 3.5%
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander 1.3%
Other Hispanic 6.9%
White 31.7%
Unknown 7.9%</p>

<p>During the shcool year 2013-2014 Stanford has 1,531 Asians out of 6,980 matriculated undergraduate students - 22%.</p>

<p>[Undergraduate</a> Profile: Stanford University Facts](<a href=“http://facts.stanford.edu/academics/undergraduate-profile]Undergraduate”>Undergraduate Student Profile - Facts)</p>

<p>While Chicago’s class 2015</p>

<p>Diversity
Asian 18.51%
Black or African American 6.49%
Hispanic or Latino 10.77%
Other 13.40%
International 11.12%</p>

<p><a href=“https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/classprofile_2015.shtml[/url]”>https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/classprofile_2015.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Chicago’s class 2017</p>

<p>Diversity
Asian 28.26%
Black or African American 8.42%
Hispanic or Latino 12.13%
Other 12.55%
International 11.08%</p>

<p><a href=“https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/classprofile.shtml[/url]”>https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/classprofile.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>For autumn 2013 quarter Chicago has 1,033 Asians out of a total of 5,741 undergraduate students - 18%.</p>

<p>If counting some Asians from Internationl student pool the Asian percentage may be in the range of 20%-23% which is not very different from that of Stanford.</p>

<p><a href=“http://registrar.uchicago.edu/sites/registrar.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/pdf/statistics/race/Census-Aut13-Race.pdf[/url]”>http://registrar.uchicago.edu/sites/registrar.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/pdf/statistics/race/Census-Aut13-Race.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The trend seems to have more Asians than before - but with a limited data of a few years.</p>

<p>BTW Asians are not only known for engineering but also for science and math. There are quite a few Asians among Chicago’s Nobel Laureates and Fields Medalists.</p>

<p>[Nobel</a> Laureates | The University of Chicago](<a href=“Page Not Found | University of Chicago”>Nobel Prizes | University of Chicago)</p>

<p>[Fields</a> Medal | The University of Chicago](<a href=“Page Not Found | University of Chicago”>Fields Medal | University of Chicago)</p>