<p>I agree, it’s really frustrating - there are a couple of people from my school applying simply because Chicago is top-ranked for Economics. But they’re not the intellectual type at all. It’s really annoying when people go by rankings - I get asked why I’m applying to Chicago if I’m not going into business and that I should go to Hopkins since I want to do science >.></p>
<p>I get the exact same response zakuropanda, and I just tell them, “It’s A Chicago Addict Thing.” And they just look at me, clueless to the amazingness of UChicago.</p>
<p>Do we need to have this argument again?</p>
<p>Yikes, Duke ED applications are up by 33%. Do you think EA for UC would be somewhat like this?</p>
<p>I think Chicago is still relatively unknown here in the south. I know of only one other person from my school who’s applying and she’s doing RA.</p>
<p>I think the number of EA apps will have risen from last year, yes. Hopefully it’s not too drastic.</p>
<p>^ based on the increased number of applications at my school alone (1 or 2 to about 6 or 7 this year)… I am afraid it’s drastic. Fingers crossed for the contrary, however.</p>
<p>I think that the EA increase (fortunately or unfortunately) could be quite significant - perhaps in the range of a 30-40% surge. I’m assuming the Chicago Maroon will report the exact figure in the Friday issue, but from all I’ve heard, numbers are up quite a bit. I’ve heard the admissions office is anticipating getting 16k-17k apps total this year, which is, well, just quite a lot. I’m assuming the lower ivies (UPenn, Cornell, Dartmouth, etc.) will all be around the 16K-18K range for their respective colleges, so this would be the first time in recent memory that Chicago’s # of apps will even be in the ballpark of some of its most immediate peers.</p>
<p>At least I’ll be prepared for my rejection :(</p>
<p>Cue7, you’re way off base on numbers. Last year, Penn had 23K applications, Brown 25K, Cornell 33K. Dartmouth had 18K. Even if there is a big surge in applications, it’s doubtful that Chicago will quite be in the ballpark you’re talking about.</p>
<p>JHS,</p>
<p>I should have been a tad more careful in word selection in my previous post, but I meant to say the respective “College of Arts & Sciences” at the schools I mention above that have them. So, I meant to say Penn’s College of Arts and Sciences, and Cornell’s College of Arts & Sciences. Dartmouth only has one college, so that’s all I had to identify. I didn’t include Brown on my list because, as you said, they receive signficantly more apps than UPenn, Cornell, etc. for their College (in comparison to the others’ College of A&S).</p>
<p>UPenn receives about 16K apps for their College of A&S. Check here: </p>
<p>[Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/)</p>
<p>Penn received 22,808 apps total, and I’m assuming Wharton undergrad receives at least 4500 apps, and the other programs (Nursing, engineering, etc.) receive at least 2K apps combined.</p>
<p>Cornell’s College of Arts & Sciences received 16,288 apps this past year. Check here:</p>
<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf</a></p>
<p>Also, as you stated, Dartmouth received 17,768 apps last year, but the past two years have seen STEEP increases for Dartmouth. Go here for info on that: [TheDartmouth.com</a> | College receives record number of applications](<a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2009/01/15/news/admissions]TheDartmouth.com”>http://thedartmouth.com/2009/01/15/news/admissions) . This year, at least according to the early pool, numbers seem to have stabilized a bit (with early apps only up 3 percent). </p>
<p>You can go here for info on that: [TheDartmouth.com</a> | Number of ED applications up 3 percent](<a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2009/11/03/news/ednumbers]TheDartmouth.com”>http://thedartmouth.com/2009/11/03/news/ednumbers)</p>
<p>So I’m going on the assumption this year that UPenn, Cornell, and Dartmouth may see a moderate increase in applications (maybe around 5-10% or so total), but this would keep the College of Arts & Sciences and College at all of these schools in the 16K-18k range. To be fair, just in case there is more of an uptick, I should have adjusted my range to the 17K-19K range for these schools. </p>
<p>From all of these camps, I have not heard of early apps being up 30-40%, and the early word from Dartmouth is the bump is not nearly that significant. The alums in charge of interviewing at Chicago, though, have already stated that apps are “way up” for U of C.</p>
<p>In any case, I should have adjusted my scale slightly, but I don’t think my numbers were “way off base” in terms of the College of A&S at the schools that have them. I’m not including the apps sent to the Ag school, hotel school, engineering, etc. because there’s no overlap there with Chicago. </p>
<p>If Chicago gets 16K-17K apps this year, and Penn and Cornell have a healthy increase to say, 17,500 apps for each of their College of A&S, and Dartmouth has say, 18500 apps today, Chicago would certainly be “in the ball park” of the lower ivies this year, at least much more so now than from not terribly long ago, where Chicago would receive maybe 40% fewer apps than the colleges of these other schools. (For example, in late 90s, I believe Chicago received around 6K applications, whereas Penn, Cornell, and Dartmouth received around 10K applications for their colleges).</p>
<p>Fair enough. You could add Columbia College with 19K applications last year. I’m sure everyone at Chicago would be pleased if they were getting roughly as many applications as Dartmouth and the A&S colleges at Penn, Cornell, and Columbia.</p>
<p>JHS,</p>
<p>I think Columbia College is more in the 21-22K range. </p>
<p>You can find their break down here: [Admission</a> Statistics | Columbia University Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/stats.php]Admission”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/stats.php)</p>
<p>So I’m thinking of the schools that get 20K+ apps (Brown, Columbia, Yale, etc.) as in the next tier in the big numbers game.</p>
<p>Weird. I got my number from another part of the Columbia website: <a href=“http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/facts/FACTS2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/facts/FACTS2009.pdf</a>. Looks like maybe it was a year old.</p>
<p>Whoa in looking at the link you sent, Columbia College’s admit rate over time is formidable. 10 years ago, Columbia was STILL only accepting about 13% of its applicants, compared to 9% or so now. </p>
<p>In the same time, I think the Penn admit rate dropped maybe 15%, Dartmouth’s probably dropped 10%, Brown 10%, Chicago around 30%, etc. Columbia’s has only dropped 4-5% in the same span of time. </p>
<p>I guess you can’t underestimate the timeless appeal of new york city…</p>
<p>Once you get into the single digits for accept rate, it just starts to get a little ridiculous.</p>
<p>FWIW: Re: #50, some small #of those applicants to Dartmouth & Brown are prospective engineering majors. Chicago, Cornell CAS and Penn CAS do not have this major, or those applicants.</p>
<p>This thread is doing absolutely nothing to boost the confidence of EA applicants… Anyway, hopefully the adcoms will know who’s applying because they want to come as opposed to who’s applying for all the wrong reasons.</p>
<p>^^ From your lips to God’s (or-any-other-supreme-being-you-[do not]-believe-in’s) ears.</p>
<p>Wow, this thread is alarming O_O. It’s upsetting that the admissions board wants to achieve an ivy-league acceptance rate and is doing so at the expense of the quality/motivation of its applicants. :'(. Well, at least those of us who are applying this year are lucky that it hasn’t gotten too bad yet…</p>
<p>I agree, eliana, this thread is alarming! I try to temper my stress by dancing to the musical stylings of Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros, or by eating candy 
but so far my efforts have proved to be less than effective</p>
<p>eliana - I think it’s still debatable whether the larger applicant pool is going to hurt the quality of the class selected. If anything, Chicago classes have only gotten stronger as the applicant pool has increased. I think there will still be significant talent in this year’s applicant pool, even if it is bigger. Again, individual applicants may not like it because there is even more competition this year, but from an institutional perspective, this really works in the best interests of the school.</p>
<p>As long as the talent of the applicant pool is still very high, it makes sense for Chicago to move in this direction - for the good of the school (although this may, unfortunately, not be for the good of a certain applicant).</p>